Re: Clear out required : Sun Aug 05, 2018 4:07 pm  

Who's gona replace all these players you want out?

Re: Clear out required : Sun Aug 05, 2018 4:12 pm  

Bang wrote:

Who's gona replace all these players you want out?

Better ones

Seriously, hopefully a coach for Sinfield to work under is already in the pipeline. We may still have to endure a tough year next year but hopefully by then the dead wood is cast adrift and some much needed quality added.

Re: Clear out required : Sun Aug 05, 2018 4:52 pm  

Sal Paradise wrote:

THis is a side that couldn't even make the top 8 in the weakest SL since its inception

On the contrary. I’d say this is the strongest SL since it’s inception. Which is why you don’t have to be far off the pace to get a hammering.

Re: Clear out required : Sun Aug 05, 2018 5:11 pm  

Him wrote:

On the contrary. I’d say this is the strongest SL since it’s inception. Which is why you don’t have to be far off the pace to get a hammering.

We must agree to differ - the quality of player on show is at an all time low so is the quality.

Leeds need a signficant change in personnel across the club - something Sinfield has alluded to

Re: Clear out required : Sun Aug 05, 2018 5:21 pm  

Him wrote:

On the contrary. I’d say this is the strongest SL since it’s inception. Which is why you don’t have to be far off the pace to get a hammering.

I get what you are saying in terms of the closeness of more teams, but the overall quality is ridiculously poor. For Leeds to be in with a shout of top 8 for so long whilst playing so badly tells you all you need to know. The quality has dumbed down massively over the last 10 years.

Re: Clear out required : Sun Aug 05, 2018 5:40 pm  

I don’t believe the quality is lower at all, it’s just a different game. The quality of defences has improved massively over the last 10 years for instance.

I think many people are mistaking boring to watch for low quality.

If the 2007 Leeds team were to play the 2017 Leeds team all I could see would be 20+ point win for the 2017 version.

That’s not dismissive of 2007 or the past, just an illustration of how the game evolves. Line speed, tackle technique etc have all massively improved and so the time on the ball is hugely reduced.

The challenge for the sport in my opinion is to find a way to make the game better to watch and to open it up as defences are now stifling.

Re: Clear out required : Sun Aug 05, 2018 5:42 pm  

Easy to say get rid of players but if contracted players don't want to leave how you going to do it? It's impossible.

Whoever is out of contract can pretty much go for me now. Players like Delaney, JJB and Ablett can go but as previous poster said who are we going to replace them with. It has to be with quality or no point.

Re: Clear out required : Sun Aug 05, 2018 5:45 pm  

Him wrote:

I don’t believe the quality is lower at all, it’s just a different game. The quality of defences has improved massively over the last 10 years for instance.

I think many people are mistaking boring to watch for low quality.

If the 2007 Leeds team were to play the 2017 Leeds team all I could see would be 20+ point win for the 2017 version.

That’s not dismissive of 2007 or the past, just an illustration of how the game evolves. Line speed, tackle technique etc have all massively improved and so the time on the ball is hugely reduced.

The challenge for the sport in my opinion is to find a way to make the game better to watch and to open it up as defences are now stifling.

I agree the game needs to find a better balance between attack and defence, but I don't believe that there has been an increase in quality from the top sides in either in the last 10 years. I'd say that the top sides have become weaker, and most of the other teams have caught up a bit, so there is a levelling of the competition, but the best Leeds or Saints teams or even Bradford teams of SL would wipe the floor with any of the current teams in SL.

Re: Clear out required : Sun Aug 05, 2018 5:53 pm  

Him wrote:

I don’t believe the quality is lower at all, it’s just a different game. The quality of defences has improved massively over the last 10 years for instance.

I think many people are mistaking boring to watch for low quality.

If the 2007 Leeds team were to play the 2017 Leeds team all I could see would be 20+ point win for the 2017 version.

That’s not dismissive of 2007 or the past, just an illustration of how the game evolves. Line speed, tackle technique etc have all massively improved and so the time on the ball is hugely reduced.

The challenge for the sport in my opinion is to find a way to make the game better to watch and to open it up as defences are now stifling.

What were the scores today - I would suggest the defences of Leeds and Saints were anything but on top.


The Leeds side of 2004 would wipe the floor with this lot - I even think the 1998 version would give them a real run for their money.

Re: Clear out required : Sun Aug 05, 2018 5:57 pm  

that 98 side would smash this side all over the park