Re: Clear out required : Thu Aug 16, 2018 6:21 pm  

Brett Delaney's latest injury does sound horrific ( sorry don't know how to do the YEP link ) think he really should call it a day for his own good and future health. I very much doubt he would be offered another contract tbh. He has been terrific for us,always giving his all.

Re: Clear out required : Thu Aug 16, 2018 6:43 pm  

Jrrhino wrote: I'm hoping we bring in a new centre with real quality, and I'd be happy to move sutcliffe to second row and bring in one top quality back rower and a top class prop and keep one of JJB or Ablett on for one more year to have that experience still around in training and match days as u wouldn't have them in match day 17 every week. Sutcliffe 2nd row? Not for me: simply not enough impact, either in the tackle or as ball carrier. The link to Delaney's injury which does indeed sound grim is https://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/ ... -1-9303388

Jrrhino wrote: I'm hoping we bring in a new centre with real quality, and I'd be happy to move sutcliffe to second row and bring in one top quality back rower and a top class prop and keep one of JJB or Ablett on for one more year to have that experience still around in training and match days as u wouldn't have them in match day 17 every week. Sutcliffe 2nd row? Not for me: simply not enough impact, either in the tackle or as ball carrier. The link to Delaney's injury which does indeed sound grim is https://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/ ... -1-9303388

Re: Clear out required : Thu Aug 16, 2018 6:53 pm  

From the sounds of the article they'd be mad to let him play again this year - his long term health has to be the first consideration.

Re: Clear out required : Thu Aug 16, 2018 8:55 pm  

Reading the article it suggests than he will be resigned for next year along with Ablett and Jjb

Re: Clear out required : Thu Aug 16, 2018 9:24 pm  

Sal Paradise wrote:

Reading the article it suggests than he will be resigned for next year along with Ablett and Jjb

Where does it mention JJB and Ablett?

Re: Clear out required : Thu Aug 16, 2018 11:47 pm  

Ideally none of them would re-sign. Sadly we're in such a mess for numbers they probably all will. I hope at least one of them doesn't come back though, as we'll be in exactly the same position next year, but with players who are another year older. TBH its time some of these guys were honest with themselves about their contribution and whether they are in effect 'stealing a living' (TM tvoc). If they stay it needs to be made clear that they'll only get picked from now on if their form warrants it - if that means not getting into the 17 behind a teenager then they have to deal with it.

Re: Clear out required : Fri Aug 17, 2018 12:11 am  

It's an interesting and potentially tricky decision?

Ideally/realistically I think one of the 3 (JJB, Delaney & Ablett) should/will be retained. If it wasn't for the sudden need to replace both Moon and Hall when it was really the pack everyone thought was the sole/main need of attention, there would be an argument for us to give thanks and wave goodbye to all 3 but given the numbers that would need replacing on top of Moon and Hall (and potentially Parcel if he goes) then I could see a scenario where 2 might be retained, but surely/hopefully not all 3?

IF the decision was to just retain 1 of the 3, who would people chose?

All 3 have done great things for the club but all now are past their best and injuries are taking their toll and we can't really afford to have them all being regular starters in our back row.

We need more size and power to replace them.

If it wasn't for all the injuries these last couple of years I personally think Delaney would offer us much more on the pitch compared to the other two, but and its a BIG but, as much as a warrior he's been for us, his body is shot to pieces and purely on his lack of repeated game time these last couple of years, I think of the 3, Delaney might be the biggest risk to retain, although if you could guarantee him a couple of years relatively injury free, then the risk might be worth it.

Another factor though that could see Ablett and/or JJB being seen as the 'better' option is the quota status of Delaney? I assume he's on one whether it be overseas or non-fed trained (or even both) in which case given the need to recruit major players to our pack and assuming that will mean shopping in the NRL market then we might need to release Delaney just to free up space on the quota?

I think it would be madness to retain all 3

Re: Clear out required : Fri Aug 17, 2018 5:29 am  

I think its very hard because individually you could make a case for retaining any of them, but as a group they are a big and growing weakness.

Part of the problem as well is not planning for this early in the year - they should all have been asked to decide re next year months ago (maybe they were and we don't know). You simply shouldn't be leaving player retention and recruitment so late - in the NRL and in SL most deals are sorted out well before the season ends.

Re: Clear out required : Fri Aug 17, 2018 5:30 am  

I would only retain Ablett out of the three. Would prefer none, but he has been the best one out of them, and at least still offers something when on the park.

Re: Clear out required : Fri Aug 17, 2018 5:32 am  

BrisbaneRhino wrote:

I think its very hard because individually you could make a case for retaining any of them, but as a group they are a big and growing weakness.

Part of the problem as well is not planning for this early in the year - they should all have been asked to decide re next year months ago (maybe they were and we don't know). You simply shouldn't be leaving player retention and recruitment so late - in the NRL and in SL most deals are sorted out well before the season ends.

We have no choice. Who is going to sign for us right now? There is a much bigger chance of us not been in a Super League next year than people realise. Once that unknown is out of way, then it can be sorted. Just proves the point of the so called “mafia led power grab”, who at least said it from a position if strength.