[Ex-Swarcliffe Rhino]

Re: Clear out required : Mon Aug 06, 2018 10:37 am  

And when it was clear they would be losing said half they again went big and secured another.

Re: Clear out required : Mon Aug 06, 2018 10:48 am  

Funny thing is when this was suggested months ago it was dismissed by many as knee jerk.

[Fantastic Mr Catpiss]

Re: Clear out required : Mon Aug 06, 2018 10:55 am  

to be fair, we actually did a clearout at the end of 2015, a few players(england monaghan and bridge) were moved on that were still under contract and thats when we went and bought westerman and lineham.

Re: Clear out required : Mon Aug 06, 2018 11:48 am  

Reminds me.of this: https://www.planetfootball.com/in-depth ... struggles/

Reminds me.of this: https://www.planetfootball.com/in-depth ... struggles/

Re: Clear out required : Mon Aug 06, 2018 2:17 pm  

Fantastic Mr Catpiss wrote:

to be fair, we actually did a clearout at the end of 2015, a few players(england monaghan and bridge) were moved on that were still under contract and thats when we went and bought westerman and lineham.

I remember looking on your board around the time you were condemned to the middle 8s last year. The feelings were very similar to us now, of the club being stale and in need of a clear out. Most people naming a huge list of players not up to the task and had enough of the Smith/agar regime. Now many of those named look revitalised under a fresh new coach with a clean slate and new ideas. That is what we need more than anything because as pointed out, in this day and age you can't just bin half the squad and get the cheque book out, it takes a few seasons to fully re shape a squad.

Re: Clear out required : Mon Aug 06, 2018 2:24 pm  

Biff Tannen wrote:

I remember looking on your board around the time you were condemned to the middle 8s last year. The feelings were very similar to us now, of the club being stale and in need of a clear out. Most people naming a huge list of players not up to the task and had enough of the Smith/agar regime. Now many of those named look revitalised under a fresh new coach with a clean slate and new ideas. That is what we need more than anything because as pointed out, in this day and age you can't just bin half the squad and get the cheque book out, it takes a few seasons to fully re shape a squad.

Having a massive shift of players would do more harm than good, we have some quality and you don't lose that overnight, look at Catalan, pretty much same team (bar drinkwater) as the beginning of the year, its just taken time for a new coach to implement everything, I'm actually pleased for McNamara, he has taken so much rubbish over the years because he had a bad spell at Bradford but he did a good job with England and has obviously taken the time to go to the NRL and learn and it's obviously paying off now.

Re: Clear out required : Mon Aug 06, 2018 2:26 pm  

Yes, i always thought he did a good job with england and was really unlucky. A second away from a WC final and a finger tip away from a 4 nations final away from home not bad from where we were when he took over. Seems a good honest bloke too.

Re: Clear out required : Mon Aug 06, 2018 4:05 pm  

Most people know we need a clear out and I'm sure that includes hetherington and no doubt kev made it clear when he took the job.

Although the the actual 'who' is up for debate given how long the list could be I don't think that is the real issue.

The bigger issue is who is available and how much money are we willing to lay out?

Re: Clear out required : Mon Aug 06, 2018 5:25 pm  

batleyrhino wrote:

Should Leeds look at Bill Tupou for a few years? He’d be a big upgrade on Sutcliffe at centre.

No hes happy where he is

Re: Clear out required : Mon Aug 06, 2018 8:30 pm  

I don't think a massive clear out is happening, or required, but there are going to be holes in the squad which need to be filled.

Moon and hall are leaving
I think JJB and Delaney are leaving
I reckon Ablett will get another year.

It's true everyone is underperforming, but assuming we get through the middle 8s we have a whole off season to implement the new way of playing, and anmoynce / sign some players.

Given the above people leaving I'd imagine than plans have been made to fill for JJB and Delaney. Hetherington never announces signings early.

Changes need to made, but I can't see anyone with a contract being moved on, it makes no salary cap sense.