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Re: Clear out required : Fri Aug 17, 2018 5:54 am  
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Where does it mention JJB and Ablett?


JJB has said publically he wants to go round again so that will happen - Ablett seems to have intimated that provided Leeds stay in SL he would re-sign so that looks like also a done deal and the club are talking to Delanney

Happy days - I don't agree with Schofield on much but these three are so far over the hill they shouldn't be in the squad of a team with top 4 aspirations
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Re: Clear out required : Fri Aug 17, 2018 6:00 am  
I think everyone can agree on that. But even that could be managed if we had viable replacements lined up and the ancients only played if they earned a spot. If our 'alternatives' include giving Liam Sutcliffe a crack at yet another position or keeping Walters around then we'll be back here next year having the same discussion.
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Re: Clear out required : Fri Aug 17, 2018 6:52 am  
Add to that Ferres - who quite frankly isn't worth a shirt and that along with Ward will fill your back row and two of your subs places.

Happy days - we don't have any youngsters to give them competition for places - the youth development at Leeds is at an all time low.
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Re: Clear out required : Fri Aug 17, 2018 7:32 am  
What's gone wrong with the youth system? Why is so little talent coming through?
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Re: Clear out required : Fri Aug 17, 2018 7:42 am  
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What's gone wrong with the youth system? Why is so little talent coming through?


Ask McDermott - he was in charge of this demise
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Re: Clear out required : Fri Aug 17, 2018 10:03 am  
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Ask McDermott - he was in charge of this demise


Far too simplistic.

You cannot expect the development section each year to produce a full pack worthy of a top SL side. We have Oledski and Smith who should make the grade and there are others perhaps ready in another year.

You cannot just ignore the number of regular long term injuries that have weakened the squad. Ferres has never been fit since we signed him yet came with an international reputation. Galloway's injury caused him to retire yet he was not replaced. Peteru looks a good signing but has been injured for most of the season as has Garbutt. Ward who came through the juniors has missed 10 matches with injury as has Delaney but both put in the effort when on the field.

Cuthbertson has had to be used as a workhorse and so has lost some of his attacking sparkle and together with Singleton, JJB and Ablett have had to do the heavy lifting for the first half of the season when all the big men were out.

Yes we should have been making quality signings to keep the side balanced but knee and facial injuries cannot be put down to age.

If Sinfield had been in charge of the team for all of this season given the same injury crisis then there is no guarantee we would have performed any better
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Re: Clear out required : Fri Aug 17, 2018 10:24 am  
no. but ones a rookie and ones a multi cup winning experienced head coach. he should have done better this year. by better I mean mid table.
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Re: Clear out required : Fri Aug 17, 2018 10:36 am  
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Far too simplistic.

You cannot expect the development section each year to produce a full pack worthy of a top SL side. We have Oledski and Smith who should make the grade and there are others perhaps ready in another year.

You cannot just ignore the number of regular long term injuries that have weakened the squad. Ferres has never been fit since we signed him yet came with an international reputation. Galloway's injury caused him to retire yet he was not replaced. Peteru looks a good signing but has been injured for most of the season as has Garbutt. Ward who came through the juniors has missed 10 matches with injury as has Delaney but both put in the effort when on the field.

Cuthbertson has had to be used as a workhorse and so has lost some of his attacking sparkle and together with Singleton, JJB and Ablett have had to do the heavy lifting for the first half of the season when all the big men were out.

Yes we should have been making quality signings to keep the side balanced but knee and facial injuries cannot be put down to age.

If Sinfield had been in charge of the team for all of this season given the same injury crisis then there is no guarantee we would have performed any better


The point wasn't about the team's performance - it was about the demise of the junior development.

Injuries are irrelevant in respect of the junior to senior pipeline either you have the players coming through to challenge the senior players or you don't. As head of coaching McDermott was responsible for the structure and the pipeline.
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Re: Clear out required : Fri Aug 17, 2018 11:02 am  
Love JJB and i would like to see him stay around the club in some capacity but its time to let go as a player imo. Delaney too.
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Re: Clear out required : Fri Aug 17, 2018 12:09 pm  
I agree. sheer madness to re-sign them
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