Re: England Squad : Wed Oct 03, 2018 2:08 pm  

Biff Tannen wrote:

But Gotcha's view was that Hall wouldn't be a pick for him even if fit.

Like you say, it will be good to see other wingers attempt to step up, although i see both JM and Hall capable of being first choices for the next couple of years at least both are 30 and the end is not that far away.

No my view is we need to move on and prepare for the future, and that basis should be on picking on form, and that Makinson has shown a consistency of top form to deserve that pick. He has been better than Hall, on form, not based on previous years or previous internationals.

Re: England Squad : Wed Oct 03, 2018 4:49 pm  

Gotcha wrote:

No my view is we need to move on and prepare for the future, and that basis should be on picking on form, and that Makinson has shown a consistency of top form to deserve that pick. He has been better than Hall, on form, not based on previous years or previous internationals.

Hall before he was injured was playing as well as ever, sadly in a team going backwards but he wasn't looking like he was declining or didn't still deserve to be playing internationals anymore. He holds that wing spot with an iron grip for me at the minute but The fact he is injured, i agree its nice to see others get a shot this winter to see if they have what it takes to take over when Hall calls it a day or declines so much he is over taken. As i said, SL form can only be taken so far into account, internationals are a different game entirely and only a very select few can make the step.

Re: England Squad : Wed Oct 03, 2018 5:16 pm  

Biff Tannen wrote:

Hall before he was injured was playing as well as ever, sadly in a team going backwards but he wasn't looking like he was declining or didn't still deserve to be playing internationals anymore. He holds that wing spot with an iron grip for me at the minute but The fact he is injured, i agree its nice to see others get a shot this winter to see if they have what it takes to take over when Hall calls it a day or declines so much he is over taken. As i said, SL form can only be taken so far into account, internationals are a different game entirely and only a very select few can make the step.

But surely you need a chance at international to show you can do it before people saying they are not up to it? You earlier talked about finishing, but there is no better finisher on the wing in Super League than Makinson. I give you the issue in yardage in general, but not all teams use that tactic for wingers.

Re: England Squad : Wed Oct 03, 2018 5:47 pm  

I’d say Greg Eden is a better finisher, not that I’d want him on the wing for England.

Re: England Squad : Wed Oct 03, 2018 6:37 pm  

Whoever replaces Ryan Hall for England during this years test series v The Kiwi's is gonna have to be very good IMO

I think that both Tom Johnstone & Tommy Makinson are both fantastic talents,Both are excellent going forward in SL, but neither have been introduced to the attacking threat that the Kiwis will throw at them defensively during the series.

How will either player go bringing the ball out of our own 20?
Or if they get a half chance of scoring during the series when it's a head down irrespective of who is in front of them?

Ryan Hall has delivered regularly against both the Aussies and Kiwis and will be a tough act to follow

Re: England Squad : Wed Oct 03, 2018 6:39 pm  

We're always planning for a future that never materialises. Pick the team that has the best chance of winning, age should be irrelevant, young or old.

Re: England Squad : Wed Oct 03, 2018 8:51 pm  

Ryan Hall would be in the England team if fit, but we have some decent wingers to replace him. Watkins is a bigger loss to England, he’s the only World class centre we have.

Re: England Squad : Thu Oct 04, 2018 6:12 am  

Charlie Sheen wrote:

We're always planning for a future that never materialises. Pick the team that has the best chance of winning, age should be irrelevant, young or old.

And
Well, we don't want to end in up a situation where the majority of the squad have few to none caps.

Re: England Squad : Thu Oct 04, 2018 4:49 pm  

Gotcha wrote:

Other than Watkins I don’t know how. But how bad has this game really become, that a player as sh2t3 as Reece Lynn can get into an international squad. How embarrassing.

What's embarrassing is that you clearly haven't watched Lyne, luckily Bennett has - you mate are very consistant at being wrong I'll give you that.

Re: England Squad : Thu Oct 04, 2018 5:06 pm  

vastman wrote:

What's embarrassing is that you clearly haven't watched Lyne, luckily Bennett has - you mate are very consistant at being wrong I'll give you that.

Go away sad Wakey man, I knew you would be the one to bite. He’s crap, anyone with half a brain cell knows that. Jog on.