Re: Humiliating triple defeat of Super League teams by NRL t : Sun Feb 18, 2018 5:47 pm  

JEAN CAPDOUZE wrote:

Now is a dark moment for English rugby league. The three English Super League contenders in contests with Australian NRL teams lost in their matches Down Under. Their was not a glimmer of inspiration from the SL players other than Hull FC's Australian talisman Albert Kelly, who kept Hull FC in the closest game, but losing against St. George-Illawarra 24-18. A full strength Wigan was defeated decisively by a below strength South Sydney 18-8 and Leeds was comprehensively trounced by Melbourne Storm 38-4.

This proves that Super League as now constituted is below the standard of the NRL. Most of the world class English talent is playing in the NRL. The only way to change this situation is to find more player talent pools for Super League. That task cannot be realised in England, where the talent pools are exhausted. It requires new talent pools from France and north America to make Super League more competitive. That is one of many reasons why SL expansion into France and north America is now urgent and imperative.

The player pools are not exhausted though. The two largest conurbations in the North West have no SL presence neither in teams and very very little in terms of players (Kallum Watkins is from Gorton in Manchester - I don’t know of another Mancunian in the league. Are there any Scousers?)

Rugby Union is getting into schools all over Manchester and Liverpool. Rugby League is not! League is still relying on the local amateur clubs in the same old rugby league towns to provide players but the player pool from them is getting smaller by the year.

Re: Humiliating triple defeat of Super League teams by NRL t : Sun Feb 18, 2018 6:23 pm  

Psychedelic Casual wrote:

The player pools are not exhausted though. The two largest conurbations in the North West have no SL presence neither in teams and very very little in terms of players (Kallum Watkins is from Gorton in Manchester - I don’t know of another Mancunian in the league. Are there any Scousers?)

Rugby Union is getting into schools all over Manchester and Liverpool. Rugby League is not! League is still relying on the local amateur clubs in the same old rugby league towns to provide players but the player pool from them is getting smaller by the year.

Why isn't rugby league getting into the schools in Manchester and Liverpool?

Re: Humiliating triple defeat of Super League teams by NRL t : Sun Feb 18, 2018 8:51 pm  

JEAN CAPDOUZE wrote: Why isn't rugby league getting into the schools in Manchester and Liverpool? I don’t have an answer to that. Other than maybe - finances. Or maybe they are living so far in the past and not in the real world that they can’t see that those same amateur clubs in those same RL towns are not enough to keep the player pool going anymore. The RFU have spent millions and put this: http://www.englandrugby.com/about-the-r ... l-schools# into action and it’s got real legs. Wythenshawe (South Manchester, population 100000) have now got a RU amateur club off the back of it with all four local high schools providing players. Previous to this Wythenshawe had no RU links at all. RL has done nothing like this in high schools in South Manchester and a mate of mine works in a school in Liverpool and said RL aren’t in schools in his area neither. Manchester Rangers does have links to MMU but you’d imagine by that age they would already be RL players from RL areas. Plus they are a seventh division club (despite having money for five/six divisions higher if needed).

JEAN CAPDOUZE wrote: Why isn't rugby league getting into the schools in Manchester and Liverpool? I don’t have an answer to that. Other than maybe - finances. Or maybe they are living so far in the past and not in the real world that they can’t see that those same amateur clubs in those same RL towns are not enough to keep the player pool going anymore. The RFU have spent millions and put this: http://www.englandrugby.com/about-the-r ... l-schools# into action and it’s got real legs. Wythenshawe (South Manchester, population 100000) have now got a RU amateur club off the back of it with all four local high schools providing players. Previous to this Wythenshawe had no RU links at all. RL has done nothing like this in high schools in South Manchester and a mate of mine works in a school in Liverpool and said RL aren’t in schools in his area neither. Manchester Rangers does have links to MMU but you’d imagine by that age they would already be RL players from RL areas. Plus they are a seventh division club (despite having money for five/six divisions higher if needed).

Re: Humiliating triple defeat of Super League teams by NRL t : Sun Feb 18, 2018 9:18 pm  

redmuzza wrote:

Dress it up whichever way you like, the Aussies are still light years in front. Aussie rugby is robotic, even the commentators picked up on the way the english club teams were throwing the ball around. Rugby is the national sport in Australia, we just cant compete with that.

Cricket is Australia's national Sport.
The English teams were throwing the ball about (often dropping it) because they couldn't break down the defense any other way.

Re: Humiliating triple defeat of Super League teams by NRL t : Sun Feb 18, 2018 9:46 pm  

Salford red all over wrote:

Really who told you that ? it's only played in two states with a manufactured franchise in Victoria.

Poor old Canberra.....

Salford red all over wrote:

Australian football is the most popular sport in Australia, followed by cricket, association football and rugby league.

Cricket is the national sport of Australia. AFL is the most supported winter sport, followed by the NRL. Football is 3rd and currently has a lower average attendance than the Perth Wildcats Basketball team.....

JEAN CAPDOUZE wrote:

Why isn't rugby league getting into the schools in Manchester and Liverpool?

Money and the way that our game is managed by the clubs who are only interested in their own survival, rather than having any long term strategies in place.
22 years ago we were the only professional Rugby with a new Million Pound TV deal and an exciting product.........now we're the "other rugby" with a cheap TV deal, a questionably boring product (see thread on these boards) and our crowds are dwindling and all the SL chairmen can do is think of ways to line their own pockets (see Hull v Wigan) or postulate about how they are going to challenge other sports (see Pearsons claims about Union).....

Re: Humiliating triple defeat of Super League teams by NRL t : Sun Feb 18, 2018 10:30 pm  

Psychedelic Casual wrote:

The player pools are not exhausted though. The two largest conurbations in the North West have no SL presence neither in teams and very very little in terms of players (Kallum Watkins is from Gorton in Manchester - I don’t know of another Mancunian in the league. Are there any Scousers?)

Rugby Union is getting into schools all over Manchester and Liverpool. Rugby League is not! League is still relying on the local amateur clubs in the same old rugby league towns to provide players but the player pool from them is getting smaller by the year.

RU had 50 PE teachers from across UAE doing training sessions in the classroom and on the field in January, they also have over 50 training sessions for L1-L3 in Dubai in 2018 planned or taken place already at various age groups.
We are so far behind it's depressing.

Re: Humiliating triple defeat of Super League teams by NRL t : Sun Feb 18, 2018 10:58 pm  

JEAN CAPDOUZE wrote:

Why isn't rugby league getting into the schools in Manchester and Liverpool?

Manchester United
Manchester City
Liverpool
Everton

This is why, Manchester andMerseyside are predomintly football supported areas, little interest in rugby league.

Re: Humiliating triple defeat of Super League teams by NRL t : Sun Feb 18, 2018 11:40 pm  

Call Me God wrote:

Poor old Canberra..... .

I did say states, sorry I should have included ACT Canberra

Re: Humiliating triple defeat of Super League teams by NRL t : Mon Feb 19, 2018 1:49 am  

Salford red all over wrote:

I did say states, sorry I should have included ACT Canberra

Rugby League is a big sport in Australia commanding great TV viewing figures.

The problem is that our sport lends itself more to TV viewers than attending because there are only a few occasions where the 'atmosphere' at a game gets above "luke warm"......AFL on the other hand is watched by immense crowds of rabid Victards who cheer, chant, proffer racist opinions and generally behave like inbred bogans.

The Newest AFL team, Western Sydney average 13,200...this is almost the same or greater than Cronulla, St George, Souths, Wests, Penrith and Manly whilst the Swans average 33,400.....which is more than the best supported team in the NRL and more than double than the best supported side in Sydney.
By Contrast, the Melbourne Storm don't attract as many fans as the worst supported AFL outfit in Victardia.....

...AFL is an abomination of a sport where the 2 main skills, Catching and Kicking straight are performed with almost comical ineptitude, but yet people will roll up to watch it in massive numbers....more people attended 11 Richmond AFL home games last year than did Newcastle, Cronulla, New Zealand and South Sydney over 48 games......The sport is a turd, but christ on a bike they are expert TURD POLISHERS

Re: Humiliating triple defeat of Super League teams by NRL t : Mon Feb 19, 2018 4:22 am  

I don't like AFL but there's no point belittling it. The only thing I find bizarre is how inaccurate they are generally with kicking over any distance, particularly from an uncontested mark.