Re: Humiliating triple defeat of Super League teams by NRL t : Mon Feb 19, 2018 4:48 pm  

LifeLongHKRFan wrote:

And you would have heard that it was the Aussies first hit out whilst Hull & Wigan have had numerous pre season friendlies and 2 SL games. As I said, don't read anything into it. It was a way of trying different combinations of players. Its the same as the pre season derby Hull & Rovers have. Nothing to read into it but a chance to blow off cobwebs.

at least st george treated the game a bit more serious than souths who named a squad of reserves virtually

Re: Humiliating triple defeat of Super League teams by NRL t : Mon Feb 19, 2018 5:31 pm  

Mild mannered Janitor wrote:

This.

The OP stated it was humiliating. Why?
Quite how only Albert Kelly gets mention when he wasn't Hulls man of the match, only Jean knows. Liam Watts was very much the MOM

Because he's sad with no social life and takes his pleasure from winding people up.

Had Liam Watts been born an antipodean, he would have been.

Re: Humiliating triple defeat of Super League teams by NRL t : Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:44 am  

Psychedelic Casual wrote: I don’t have an answer to that. Other than maybe - finances. Or maybe they are living so far in the past and not in the real world that they can’t see that those same amateur clubs in those same RL towns are not enough to keep the player pool going anymore. The RFU have spent millions and put this: http://www.englandrugby.com/about-the-r ... l-schools# into action and it’s got real legs. Wythenshawe (South Manchester, population 100000) have now got a RU amateur club off the back of it with all four local high schools providing players. Previous to this Wythenshawe had no RU links at all. RL has done nothing like this in high schools in South Manchester and a mate of mine works in a school in Liverpool and said RL aren’t in schools in his area neither. Manchester Rangers does have links to MMU but you’d imagine by that age they would already be RL players from RL areas. Plus they are a seventh division club (despite having money for five/six divisions higher if needed). And yet when the play Rugby at my sons RURAL Oxfordshire school, they play Rugby LEAGUE. Go figure that one out? Maybe the RL are trying to promote RFL in areas that are NOT in the heartlands, and RFU are trying to do the same thing.... You know JUST maybe?

Psychedelic Casual wrote: I don’t have an answer to that. Other than maybe - finances. Or maybe they are living so far in the past and not in the real world that they can’t see that those same amateur clubs in those same RL towns are not enough to keep the player pool going anymore. The RFU have spent millions and put this: http://www.englandrugby.com/about-the-r ... l-schools# into action and it’s got real legs. Wythenshawe (South Manchester, population 100000) have now got a RU amateur club off the back of it with all four local high schools providing players. Previous to this Wythenshawe had no RU links at all. RL has done nothing like this in high schools in South Manchester and a mate of mine works in a school in Liverpool and said RL aren’t in schools in his area neither. Manchester Rangers does have links to MMU but you’d imagine by that age they would already be RL players from RL areas. Plus they are a seventh division club (despite having money for five/six divisions higher if needed). And yet when the play Rugby at my sons RURAL Oxfordshire school, they play Rugby LEAGUE. Go figure that one out? Maybe the RL are trying to promote RFL in areas that are NOT in the heartlands, and RFU are trying to do the same thing.... You know JUST maybe?

[Karen]

Re: Humiliating triple defeat of Super League teams by NRL t : Tue Feb 20, 2018 3:21 pm  

knockersbumpMKII wrote: RU had 50 PE teachers from across UAE doing training sessions in the classroom and on the field in January, they also have over 50 training sessions for L1-L3 in Dubai in 2018 planned or taken place already at various age groups. We are so far behind it's depressing. Dubai really isn't a good example seeing as their coach was thrown into jail over there for trying to promote the code: https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/mokdad-slams-rlif-over-englands-dubai-trip/

knockersbumpMKII wrote: RU had 50 PE teachers from across UAE doing training sessions in the classroom and on the field in January, they also have over 50 training sessions for L1-L3 in Dubai in 2018 planned or taken place already at various age groups. We are so far behind it's depressing. Dubai really isn't a good example seeing as their coach was thrown into jail over there for trying to promote the code: https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/mokdad-slams-rlif-over-englands-dubai-trip/

Re: Humiliating triple defeat of Super League teams by NRL t : Tue Feb 20, 2018 7:13 pm  

Karen wrote: Dubai really isn't a good example seeing as their coach was thrown into jail over there for trying to promote the code: Reading that interview it seems the bloke who was thrown in jail and then booted out of the country is better at understanding the actual situation and is more forgiving than many RL fans. https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/mokdad-slams-rlif-over-englands-dubai-trip/ “I still do not blame the sport of rugby union, nor the government or the people of the UAE for my arrest. “I spent a wonderful nine years in the UAE and have made a lifetime of memories and friends during my stay there.“I respect the country and all the effort they put into making the UAE a great nation. I am not anti-rugby union, and during my stay in Dubai I played rugby union the entire time.

Karen wrote: Dubai really isn't a good example seeing as their coach was thrown into jail over there for trying to promote the code: Reading that interview it seems the bloke who was thrown in jail and then booted out of the country is better at understanding the actual situation and is more forgiving than many RL fans. https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/mokdad-slams-rlif-over-englands-dubai-trip/ “I still do not blame the sport of rugby union, nor the government or the people of the UAE for my arrest. “I spent a wonderful nine years in the UAE and have made a lifetime of memories and friends during my stay there.“I respect the country and all the effort they put into making the UAE a great nation. I am not anti-rugby union, and during my stay in Dubai I played rugby union the entire time.

[Karen]

Re: Humiliating triple defeat of Super League teams by NRL t : Tue Feb 20, 2018 7:24 pm  

Call Me God wrote:

Reading that interview it seems the bloke who was thrown in jail and then booted out of the country is better at understanding the actual situation and is more forgiving than many RL fans.

You have missed my point entirely. My point is that RL in Dubai is never going to work if the powers that be are going to throw anyone trying to promote it in jail! Sol Mokdad might not have a bad word to say about the UAE or RU, but the facts remain that RL in Dubai is a really bad example for expansion lol

Re: Humiliating triple defeat of Super League teams by NRL t : Tue Feb 20, 2018 7:43 pm  

Karen wrote:

You have missed my point entirely.

My bad.....

Re: Humiliating triple defeat of Super League teams by NRL t : Tue Feb 20, 2018 9:00 pm  

Karen wrote: Dubai really isn't a good example seeing as their coach was thrown into jail over there for trying to promote the code: https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/mokdad-slams-rlif-over-englands-dubai-trip/ I already know about that and signed a petition to maybe influence those with more weight to get him released. And I disagree, it's a very good example and you miss the point entirely! It's about getting training to those at grass roots level, to those that have influence at local level, that being in schools in areas that we currently don't have a foothold. If union are able to do this in a far away land where there is no history of the sport then we should at least be capable of doing this in regions other than the areas that are already strongly invested in RL. They have 5 union leagues that compete regularly in UAE and are prepared to invest more time and money to get it to flourish. Meanwhile the RFL have failed to fund people in the Southern regions at least to go into schools and try to recruit, engage and enhance the profile of the sport, there are hardly any development officers any more hence why schools that did start playing league and playing in the national comps (certainly in Hertfordshire) no longer play any league whatsoever, not even casually. That Sol was put in jail is irrelevant to the point and you missed it by a Carlisle mile

Karen wrote: Dubai really isn't a good example seeing as their coach was thrown into jail over there for trying to promote the code: https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/mokdad-slams-rlif-over-englands-dubai-trip/ I already know about that and signed a petition to maybe influence those with more weight to get him released. And I disagree, it's a very good example and you miss the point entirely! It's about getting training to those at grass roots level, to those that have influence at local level, that being in schools in areas that we currently don't have a foothold. If union are able to do this in a far away land where there is no history of the sport then we should at least be capable of doing this in regions other than the areas that are already strongly invested in RL. They have 5 union leagues that compete regularly in UAE and are prepared to invest more time and money to get it to flourish. Meanwhile the RFL have failed to fund people in the Southern regions at least to go into schools and try to recruit, engage and enhance the profile of the sport, there are hardly any development officers any more hence why schools that did start playing league and playing in the national comps (certainly in Hertfordshire) no longer play any league whatsoever, not even casually. That Sol was put in jail is irrelevant to the point and you missed it by a Carlisle mile

[Karen]

Re: Humiliating triple defeat of Super League teams by NRL t : Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:02 pm  

knockersbumpMKII wrote:

I already know about that and signed a petition to maybe influence those with more weight to get him released.
And I disagree, it's a very good example and you miss the point entirely!
It's about getting training to those at grass roots level, to those that have influence at local level, that being in schools in areas that we currently don't have a foothold. If union are able to do this in a far away land where there is no history of the sport then we should at least be capable of doing this in regions other than the areas that are already strongly invested in RL. They have 5 union leagues that compete regularly in UAE and are prepared to invest more time and money to get it to flourish.

Meanwhile the RFL have failed to fund people in the Southern regions at least to go into schools and try to recruit, engage and enhance the profile of the sport, there are hardly any development officers any more hence why schools that did start playing league and playing in the national comps (certainly in Hertfordshire) no longer play any league whatsoever, not even casually.

That Sol was put in jail is irrelevant to the point and you missed it by a Carlisle mile

I didn't miss your point at all. If you want grass roots investing in then we need to be starting here in the UK, not in a country where promoting it can get you jailed.

Re: Humiliating triple defeat of Super League teams by NRL t : Wed Feb 21, 2018 2:26 am  

No, you banged on about someone being in prison, that was nothing to do with the point I was making, yes imprisoning someone (albeit briefly) on the back of dodgy circumstances is not good but the point you clearly missed is that to broaden the appeal of the game RL needs to be doing what RU are doing. You missed that entirely and then had the effrontary to tell someone else they missed the point.
Just typical really.