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Re: Wakefield or Huddersfield : Fri Jul 13, 2018 2:44 pm  
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The middle 8s might seem a good idea on the surface as it creates 'excitement' but what it also creates is uncertainty for 4 Superleague clubs which in turn means they can't plan for the following year which hinders sponsorship and season ticket sales, we as a sport simply cannot afford to have all the uncertainty for1/3rd of the top tier clubs half way through the season.

Do you think its good that teams are now throwing cash at over rated Aussies in the hope of keeping up ? and we wonder why we don't produce a load of good youngsters, if clubs know they can plan properly after having a bad season it means they are not forced to throw money they don't have at players they don't need. It's just a race to the bottom, the excitement should be at the top of the league not the bottom.

Lets say Either Leeds or Warrington last year got relegated for finishing 9th because they had a bad year, yes it will give some fans a good 'laugh' but it would be a disaster for the Superleague.


You are correct in that it creates uncertainty, but not just for super league clubs. Teams in the leagues below SL have to deal with everything you mentioned in addition to not knowing what their central funding allocation will be the following year. Look at the top of the championship right now, it could go down to the last regular fixture of the season before some of those clubs will know if they're going to be playing games against the likes of Hull KR and Leeds, or Dewsbury and Sheffield.
The disparity in income levels is mad.

This setup also does nothing for youth development. Every overseas signing takes the spot of a british player, and those fighting tooth and nail for SL survival are highly unlikely to bring through any junior talent for fear of dropping out of the top tier of the sport.

Some will disagree but I still think licensing (with mandatory reserve teams) is the way to go.
Give those outside of SL some clear KPIs to hit, and give those who move up into SL a few years to prove their worth.
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Re: Wakefield or Huddersfield : Fri Jul 13, 2018 4:07 pm  
2 up 2 down, 10x10
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JESUS WEPT :WALL: HOW MANY TIMES?????
£20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000.
The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover.

There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT:

Re: Wakefield or Huddersfield : Fri Jul 13, 2018 8:44 pm  
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2 up 2 down, 10x10

Nah.....2 conferences of 9.....play your own teams H&A and then 1 game against the other 9......25 regular seasons games with an assured 12 home games as well as a Magic weekend bonanza of 3 days 3 games a day.

On Current Form...
Conf 1
ST HELENS
WIRE
FC
HUDDS
LEEDS
SALFORD
TORONTO
FAX
LONDON
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WIGAN
CASTLEFORD
CATALAN
WAKEY
HKR
WIDNES
TOULOUSE
FEV
LEIGH

8 home games v your conference sides with another 4 v the other conference sides and Magic weekend.....top 4 from each play off quarter finals to GF.......

What we do't need is a new format designed to increase revenue by increasing the number of games......12 home games is 12 opportunities to budget.....SKY (or whomever) TV cash split evenly between all 18 sides with MINIMAL bonus payments to the teams finishing in the top 4 of each conference.......Maybe take the 4 QF games and 2 Semi's to neutral grounds and let all the clubs make money by selling tickets for these EVENTS....?
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£20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000.
The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover.

There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT:

Re: Wakefield or Huddersfield : Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:54 pm  
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I believe your train of thought might be slightly different come 10PM Friday 8)

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SEE YOU ON FRIDAY CALL ME GOD

It's Friday boys....... :lol: where you at?

CATALAN 19 POINTS (-72)....Salford at Home and Wigan away =21 points
HUDDERSFIELD 19 POINTS (-228) Castleford away and Wakefield at Home = 21 points
WAKEFIELD 19 POINTS (+25) FC at home and Huddersfield away = 19 points
LEEDS 16 POINTS (-104) Widnes at Home and Salford Away =20 points

As I said in my original Post, Wakefield at Huddersfield is the real deal.......coz I don't see leeds losing next week!
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Re: Wakefield or Huddersfield : Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:58 pm  
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It's Friday boys....... :lol: where you at?

CATALAN 19 POINTS (-72)....Salford at Home and Wigan away =21 points
HUDDERSFIELD 19 POINTS (-228) Castleford away and Wakefield at Home = 21 points
WAKEFIELD 19 POINTS (+25) FC at home and Huddersfield away = 19 points
LEEDS 16 POINTS (-104) Widnes at Home and Salford Away =21 points

As I said in my original Post, Wakefield at Huddersfield is the real deal.......coz I don't see leeds losing next week!


We’ll be going some to get 5 points from 2 games
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£20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000.
The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover.

There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT:

Re: Wakefield or Huddersfield : Fri Jul 13, 2018 10:04 pm  
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We’ll be going some to get 5 points from 2 games

It's the "SINFIELD" factor :lol:
Amended in the original...... :oops:
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£20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000.
The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover.

There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT:

Re: Wakefield or Huddersfield : Sat Jul 14, 2018 4:11 am  
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I believe your train of thought might be slightly different come 10PM Friday 8)

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SEE YOU ON FRIDAY CALL ME GOD

It's Saturday guys............ :lol: where you at?
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Re: Wakefield or Huddersfield : Sat Jul 14, 2018 4:45 am  
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It's Saturday guys............ :lol: where you at?


Your train of thought was that leeds would win all of their last 3 games but they haven’t so not,sure what you are chirping about.
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Re: Wakefield or Huddersfield : Sat Jul 14, 2018 5:34 am  
Catalans could beat Wigan and if other results go their way Catalans could end up in 6th place instead of their current 7th. Then it is on for all and sundry.
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Re: Wakefield or Huddersfield : Sat Jul 14, 2018 7:49 am  
Any of the sides down to 8th could finish as high as fifth. I fully expect Wakefield to beat Hull next week, Hull are in freefall at the moment and with Connor injured that's only going to get worse, and have little to play for now whereas next weeks game is actually Wakefields best shot at avoiding the Middle eights.
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