Re: 2019 predictions : Sat Jan 12, 2019 8:13 pm  

Him wrote:

Saints have only won 1 Final in the last 10 years and they needed to play against 12 men in that one to win it.

And had Ben Flower not had his brain fart then Wigan would’ve won that final comfortably.

Quite damning for Saints as a ‘big club’ that since their last final appearance 7 of 12 SL clubs have reached one of the 2 major finals with Saints being in the same company as Salford, Wakefield, Hudds and London as having not done so.

Re: 2019 predictions : Sat Jan 12, 2019 8:28 pm  

ThePrinter wrote:

And had Ben Flower not had his brain fart then Wigan would’ve won that final comfortably.

Quite damning for Saints as a ‘big club’ that since their last final appearance 7 of 12 SL clubs have reached one of the 2 major finals with Saints being in the same company as Salford, Wakefield, Hudds and London as having not done so.

Yes but were not big clubs, so it's only to be expected

Re: 2019 predictions : Sat Jan 12, 2019 8:31 pm  

All predictions are fine until injuries determine the actual positions where they will finish. So there.

Re: 2019 predictions : Sat Jan 12, 2019 8:37 pm  

little wayne69 wrote:

Yes but were not big clubs, so it's only to be expected

Exactly, they’re at small club level in terms of finals. Those 4 are probably going to be the bottom 4 this season.

[Fantastic Mr Catpiss]

Re: 2019 predictions : Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:24 am  

Shifty Cat wrote:

Might be just me but I thought he linked the match report because Lebron said this meaning that Lees didn't play in the semi and that link posted has him playing. I can't remember the game but a few other sites like the BBC has him in as well.

Unless that's not the point at all.

You understood it perfectly fella.

Infact iirc the sky narrative for this game was lees inclusion and amor's omission.

Re: 2019 predictions : Sun Jan 13, 2019 2:00 am  

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Re: 2019 predictions : Sun Jan 13, 2019 2:02 am  

Him wrote:

To answer your question Warrington last won a final in 2012. However to take the mick out of a team that actually manages to reach finals these days seems a bit silly for a Saints fan.

Last 10 seasons

League Leaders:
Saints - 2
Warrington - 2

Cup Wins:
Saints - 0
Warrington - 3

Grand Final Wins:
Saints - 1
Warrington - 0

Total Final Appearances:
Saints - 4
Warrington - 9

Total Trophies:
Saints - 3
Warrington - 5

Saints have only won 1 Final in the last 10 years and they needed to play against 12 men in that one to win it.

Choosing to read what suits you I see. My post was in response to Catpiss taking the mick out of Saints fans disappearing since we stopped winning trophies when we’ve won one, more recently than Wire. I was making the point that it’s a bit silly for a Warrington fan to take the kick out of Saints not winning trophies. Have to add that getting to finals and losing them is not success. I also see how you’ve conveniently missed out that Saints played 78 minutes of that match with no halfback on the pitch and Mark Flanagan at 7. Guess that bit doesn’t suit your agenda.

Re: 2019 predictions : Sun Jan 13, 2019 2:58 am  

ThePrinter wrote:

And had Ben Flower not had his brain fart then Wigan would’ve won that final comfortably.

Quite damning for Saints as a ‘big club’ that since their last final appearance 7 of 12 SL clubs have reached one of the 2 major finals with Saints being in the same company as Salford, Wakefield, Hudds and London as having not done so.

Your point being what? You’re implying that 7 clubs are ahead of Saints in that time period when 3 of them have won the same amount of finals as Saints in that time: 0. Therefore 8 SL sides have won nothing (apart from LLS) in the last 4 seasons. Getting to a final and then losing it is not success or an achievement to be proud of. One of those teams with that zero next to their name from 2015 onwards has had the biggest budget in the league in that time as well.

Re: 2019 predictions : Sun Jan 13, 2019 3:01 pm  

AS108 wrote:

s. Have to add that getting to finals and losing them is not success.

Nonsense. Better to win the finals, but most fans would agree losing in the semi-finals in the worst outcome. Also, financially, there is a great deal of success from getting to finals, win or lose.

Re: 2019 predictions : Sun Jan 13, 2019 4:28 pm  

Asgardian13 wrote:

Nonsense. Better to win the finals, but most fans would agree losing in the semi-finals in the worst outcome. Also, financially, there is a great deal of success from getting to finals, win or lose.

I've always thought getting to a Grand final is a great achievement for both teams, losing one is one of the greatest dissapointments in a players career, winning one is the ultimate success for a players career, you could also say the same thing from the spectators perspective.

Getting to Grand Finals with a zero success rate however must be one of the most depressing situations to get that "monkey off your back". If Warrington eventually win one then I will be one of the first to congratulate them up until then we will always take the mickey out of them Being there Year.