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Re: Shaun Edwards : Thu Aug 09, 2018 1:35 pm  
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“Now there’s a name I’ve not heard in a looong time...”

Whatever happened to that Wire2004 fella?


I'm the very same wire2004.
Im a Bit older and a bit wiser. Alot Less active on forums these days. But I do like still read some of the stuff on here still.
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Re: Shaun Edwards : Thu Aug 09, 2018 3:56 pm  
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I remember that crazy summer too. We were being linked with Billy McGinty, Paul Terzis, Mike Ford, Neil Kelly and Edwards. I think even Phil Clarke was linked with coaching us!

I was quite pro-Edwards as well for the reasons you say: he was just a relentless winner and there were times (eg when Dorahy was Wigan coach and Wire and Bradford were pushing them all the way) where Edwards seemed to take charge when they were under pressure and act as player-coach.

The main argument against him (other than people just hating him for his achievements with Wigan) was that he would never be anything other than a short-term option for us. If he started to turn us round, we knew that trigger-happy Maurice would sack Stuart Raper and bring Edwards in. Also memories were still fresh of Dean Bell - a similar 'winner', struggling with Leeds.

I think the papers reported that our board had met Edwards but he didn't want to relocate from down south...? does that ring any bells with anyone?

I was also pro-Hanley and in the latter Cullen years I was always banging on about how we should get Hanley in.


Some blasts from the past there, Sally

I'd forgotten the Clarke rumour, and can't remember Terzis' name. Old age, eh?
I think you're right about the Edwards relocation issue. Iirc, he'd recently had a kiddy with that foghorn from M People, so that might have been a spanner in the works. However, I don't think he'd have jumped ship, if the dodgy bookmaker had come calling. You can tell from his cV, he's a loyal fella, plus there's his dad's links with the club.

Regards Hanley, I was keen, too. HOWEVER, apart from Ellery himself, there's only one other love in his life, and that's money. I remember BBC Breakfast doing a film on him, 20 odd years ago, when he was on one of his Aussie season jaunts (May, June, July, when there was no tours that year), and the Aussie press had nicknamed him Salary Hanley (a bit like Money Bill Williams, recently). He WOULD have cost a proverbial arm and leg, and buggered off at the first paycheque waved at him.
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Re: Shaun Edwards : Thu Aug 09, 2018 3:59 pm  
btw, without TOO much of a derail, why did Hanley leave Saints?
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Re: Shaun Edwards : Thu Aug 09, 2018 4:31 pm  
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btw, without TOO much of a derail, why did Hanley leave Saints?


Or put another way, why does anyone go to St Helens in the first place?
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Re: Shaun Edwards : Thu Aug 09, 2018 4:44 pm  
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btw, without TOO much of a derail, why did Hanley leave Saints?



cos he stood up at a pre season get together and told all the sponsors that the then board were a a bunch of money grabbing wotsits (words i legally can't say) and that they should keep their money.

Funnily enough the board didn't want him around after that.
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Re: Shaun Edwards : Thu Aug 09, 2018 5:32 pm  
Bit of a strange one is Ellery. Undoubtedly, extremely talented as a RL player but no interest in interaction with the 'masses'.

We had him as Head Coach at Doncaster and I reckon he's the only person to hold that position in the last 35 years that I've not had a number of conversations with.
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Re: Shaun Edwards : Thu Aug 09, 2018 5:46 pm  
Randomly went out for a meal with Ellery Hanley a few years back, thoroughly nice chap but literally the thickest person I’ve ever spoken to.... presumably one of the reasons he never made it as a coach
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Re: Shaun Edwards : Thu Aug 09, 2018 7:38 pm  
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Or put another way, why does anyone go to St Helens in the first place?


To win Super league grand finals. The exact reason you don’t go to Warrington if you want to win one

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Re: Shaun Edwards : Thu Aug 09, 2018 9:17 pm  
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To win Super league grand finals. The exact reason you don’t go to Warrington if you want to win one

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Re: Shaun Edwards : Thu Aug 09, 2018 9:27 pm  
Lebron, would you like to compare recent trophy wins.

Back to Shaun Edwards, great player, has loads of coaching experience, but I feel there are problems at Wigan with all the leavers.
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