Re: Is our pack good enough? : Tue May 01, 2018 9:23 am  

ninearches wrote:

Sullivan was much better as a hooker than half back. Didn't Johns only come over for 3 games anyway ?

Yes..but he'd agreed a deal to come over 12 months later.
So PC played with what we had until Johns arrival and then missed the opportunity to sign a replacement with his dubious drugs bust announce.

Re: Is our pack good enough? : Tue May 01, 2018 9:26 am  

.....so Bridge and Johns both let him down while Sullivan and Monas(Johns replacement) being 5/8th wasn't ideally suited to play a British hb role.

Re: Is our pack good enough? : Tue May 01, 2018 10:48 am  

But Sullivan insisted he was a scrum half and that was the basis on which he was signed (and sold to the fans if I recall correctly). There were a few players who let PC down at various stages.

Re: Is our pack good enough? : Tue May 01, 2018 11:29 am  

Captain Hook wrote:

But Sullivan insisted he was a scrum half and that was the basis on which he was signed (and sold to the fans if I recall correctly). There were a few players who let PC down at various stages.

Both Sullivan and Monas were both 5/8 with hb experience, brought in to play 7 and clearly neither were suited to the conditions for the UK. I don't think it's a coincidence that NZ or those from south sea islands are better suited to the UK game and seemingly never having the need to adjust.

Re: Is our pack good enough? : Tue May 01, 2018 12:00 pm  

rubber duckie wrote:

Yes..but he'd agreed a deal to come over 12 months later.
So PC played with what we had until Johns arrival and then missed the opportunity to sign a replacement with his dubious drugs bust announce.

What was "dubious" about his arrest?

Re: Is our pack good enough? : Tue May 01, 2018 12:10 pm  

rubber duckie wrote:

Both Sullivan and Monas were both 5/8 with hb experience, brought in to play 7 and clearly neither were suited to the conditions for the UK. I don't think it's a coincidence that NZ or those from south sea islands are better suited to the UK game and seemingly never having the need to adjust.

Neither Sullivan or Monaghan played stand-off at anytime in Australia (or England to my recollection).

Sullivan was a failed scrum-half moved to hooker who still thought (wrongly) he could make it at scrum-half. Warrington gave him the opportunity, he showed he wasn't a scrum-half.

Monaghan was a decent scrum-half who was moved to hooker to accommodate Orford (I think). His nose was put out of joint and he thus signed for Warrington. Ironically after signing our contract for the following year injury to others saw him hit top form at scrum-half for Manly whilst his best form with Warrington was at hooker even though his initial performances at scrum-half were promising.

Re: Is our pack good enough? : Tue May 01, 2018 12:26 pm  

Paul Youane wrote:

What was "dubious" about his arrest?

The only thing dubious was how he'd seemingly got away with it for years and conveniently drop his meticulous guard to get caught by a bouncer 24hrs before the Australian press could print a scoop in their words.

Re: Is our pack good enough? : Tue May 01, 2018 12:32 pm  

Paul Youane wrote:

Neither Sullivan or Monaghan played stand-off at anytime in Australia (or England to my recollection).

Sullivan was a failed scrum-half moved to hooker who still thought (wrongly) he could make it at scrum-half. Warrington gave him the opportunity, he showed he wasn't a scrum-half.

Monaghan was a decent scrum-half who was moved to hooker to accommodate Orford (I think). His nose was put out of joint and he thus signed for Warrington. Ironically after signing our contract for the following year injury to others saw him hit top form at scrum-half for Manly whilst his best form with Warrington was at hooker even though his initial performances at scrum-half were promising.

Oops....not 5/8. Yes that is stand off.
It must by 7/8th.
Doh. Apologies

Re: Is our pack good enough? : Tue May 01, 2018 12:44 pm  

....I can always remember that pass vs Cas by Monas when at 7 that put Cull out of a job.
I can't be sure that pass wasn't an intentional own goal.
We'll never know for sure unless Monas decides to write a proper warts n all biography....not Briars type book.

Re: Is our pack good enough? : Tue May 01, 2018 12:47 pm  

rubber duckie wrote:

The only thing dubious was how he'd seemingly got away with it for years and conveniently drop his meticulous guard to get caught by a bouncer 24hrs before the Australian press could print a scoop in their words.

He was caught by a sniffer dog on the tube network in London months after retiring due to a neck injury, which was the reason he never returned to Warrington.