Re: Your Wembley headache 17 : Wed Aug 15, 2018 9:31 am  

Uncle Rico wrote:

The OP team pick was spot on I don't understand this post though

In other words I hope we field a team without our stars. A flogging like at London a few years ago is just collateral damage.

Re: Your Wembley headache 17 : Wed Aug 15, 2018 9:33 am  

Wires71 wrote:

I know you are being mischievous but it needs to be continual poor form to be dropped. It's also relative. Clark playing 5/10 is still better than any option we have. Toby King playing 7/10 of his capability is not.

What's your goat with Toby?

Re: Your Wembley headache 17 : Wed Aug 15, 2018 12:10 pm  

rubber duckie wrote:

What's your goat with Toby?

Nothing personal, just don't rate him highly as a top SL Centre yet.

I could never imagine him in the Wigan, Saints or Leeds side and I use that as the comparative benchmark.

I thought the same about Rhys Evans for years against much criticism too.

Re: Your Wembley headache 17 : Wed Aug 15, 2018 12:22 pm  

Wires71 wrote:

Nothing personal, just don't rate him highly as a top SL Centre yet.

I could never imagine him in the Wigan, Saints or Leeds side and I use that as the comparative benchmark.

I thought the same about Rhys Evans for years against much criticism too.

Difference is though that T.Kings shows something almost every game he plays. Rhys didn't.

Plus i believe if Toby was in a Wigan set up he'd be on the level that Gildart is now.

Re: Your Wembley headache 17 : Wed Aug 15, 2018 2:57 pm  

Wires71 wrote:

Nothing personal, just don't rate him highly as a top SL Centre yet.

I could never imagine him in the Wigan, Saints or Leeds side and I use that as the comparative benchmark.

I thought the same about Rhys Evans for years against much criticism too.

Right centres for the clubs you name last weekend:

Wigan - Willie Isa
Leeds - Jimmy Keinhorst
St Helens - Elvis Costello

Now, we can have a healthy debate about whether King is better than all of those three (I would say he was), but to say you 'could never imagine' him getting past any of those three suggests a pretty deep seated personal beef.

Re: Your Wembley headache 17 : Wed Aug 15, 2018 4:04 pm  

just_browny wrote:

Right centres for the clubs you name last weekend:

Wigan - Willie Isa
Leeds - Jimmy Keinhorst
St Helens - Elvis Costello

Now, we can have a healthy debate about whether King is better than all of those three (I would say he was), but to say you 'could never imagine' him getting past any of those three suggests a pretty deep seated personal beef.

OK fair enough. I should have said I cannot image Toby King being one of the first choice centres for Saints, Leeds, Wigan.

I can assure you I have no personal beef with him in any seated form, nor with Ryhs Evans, Sam Wilde, George King, Russell, Cox, Wheeler, Laithwaite, Ben Evans et al which I have never fancied as top rate players either. It's a broad church the Warrington fan base and I don't expect everyone to agree.

There is only one person in this world I have a beef with and he is a complete and utter nice person I used to work for. But revenge will be served

[Wanderer]

Re: Your Wembley headache 17 : Wed Aug 15, 2018 4:43 pm  

Wires71 wrote:

Nothing personal, just don't rate him highly as a top SL Centre yet.
I could never imagine him in the Wigan, Saints or Leeds side and I use that as the comparative benchmark.

I thought the same about Rhys Evans for years against much criticism too.

He'd certainly get in the current Leeds starting 13.

Re: Your Wembley headache 17 : Wed Aug 15, 2018 6:32 pm  

It's not this week that concerns me it's the Hull game on the Thursday after the final. Win or lose at Wembley the coaches will have a huge task to get the players up/down with a five day turnaround never mind the fatigue factor. Our skinny squad will definitely be tested that week.

Re: Your Wembley headache 17 : Wed Aug 15, 2018 6:37 pm  

matt king's cat wrote:

It's not this week that concerns me it's the Hull game on the Thursday after the final. Win or lose at Wembley the coaches will have a huge task to get the players up/down with a five day turnaround never mind the fatigue factor. Our skinny squad will definitely be tested that week.

I think it might be best to right off the Hull game in your mind - win or lose.

Re: Your Wembley headache 17 : Wed Aug 15, 2018 6:38 pm  

matt king's cat wrote:

It's not this week that concerns me it's the Hull game on the Thursday after the final. Win or lose at Wembley the coaches will have a huge task to get the players up/down with a five day turnaround never mind the fatigue factor. Our skinny squad will definitely be tested that week.

It looks to me that Price wants to win this one...then party off Hull.
Seems fair to me.