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Re: Jack Hughes : Sun Dec 16, 2018 1:20 pm  
Hughes isn't Russell.
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Re: Jack Hughes : Sun Dec 16, 2018 7:54 pm  
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That's why the Matty Russel contract was baffling. Granted a lucrative 3 year contract for 2017,18,19 then binned 3 games into the 2018 season under Price after the howlers at Huddersfield and Widnes. I think we will still be playing part of his wages through 2019.

So the club has form for lengthy contracts for players which turnout that no other SL team wants. (I'm not suggesting it's the same for Hughes as he is a solid if unspectacular SL 2nd rower).

Source: https://www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/ne ... xtensions/

I think you have over played your hand...1 example is hardly “form”.
Ps I think most of us were baffled by the extension to Russell’s contract. It was obviously a going away present from TS.
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That's why the Matty Russel contract was baffling. Granted a lucrative 3 year contract for 2017,18,19 then binned 3 games into the 2018 season under Price after the howlers at Huddersfield and Widnes. I think we will still be playing part of his wages through 2019.

So the club has form for lengthy contracts for players which turnout that no other SL team wants. (I'm not suggesting it's the same for Hughes as he is a solid if unspectacular SL 2nd rower).

Source: https://www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/ne ... xtensions/

I think you have over played your hand...1 example is hardly “form”.
Ps I think most of us were baffled by the extension to Russell’s contract. It was obviously a going away present from TS.
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Re: Jack Hughes : Tue Dec 18, 2018 6:54 am  
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I think you have over played your hand...1 example is hardly “form”.
Ps I think most of us were baffled by the extension to Russell’s contract. It was obviously a going away present from TS.


A lot were saying things like "I think I'll take TS's opinion on Russell over idiots on a message board".

Some odd signings then.... Taylor Prell.
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Re: Jack Hughes : Tue Dec 18, 2018 8:58 am  
Wires71 wrote:
A lot were saying things like "I think I'll take TS's opinion on Russell over idiots on a message board".

Some odd signings then.... Taylor Prell.

Not a quote "" I read or said.
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Re: Jack Hughes : Tue Dec 18, 2018 9:05 am  
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Not a quote "" I read or said.


Believe me. During April/May/June when the ones wanting TS out were getting grief/banned on here.
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Re: Jack Hughes : Tue Dec 18, 2018 9:24 am  
Wires71 wrote:
Believe me. During April/May/June when the ones wanting TS out were getting grief/banned on here.

I wasn't banned or getting grief.
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Re: Jack Hughes : Tue Dec 18, 2018 10:30 am  
Tony Smith has gone, he is now irrelevant to current signings or future ones.
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Re: Jack Hughes : Tue Dec 18, 2018 12:04 pm  
I don't suppose any of us knows for certain, but I had always imagined that contract extension discussions would have taken place between the CEO and the coach. Actual monies that could be offered would mainly come from the CEO / accountant ( with his salary cap spreadsheet), together with implications for the rest of the squad ( "sorry, but that would mean you have used up the salary cap if you give him £xx"). However, contract length would mainly be a decision of the coach ?

So I don't think you can say our club has a policy towards short/long contracts. A three year contract is probably Price saying this guy is an important member of the team and I want to tie him down for the foreseeable future. I suppose it could also mean that they have had to offer him three years or they would have lost him to a competitor, but it probably arrives at the same conclusion anyway - that Price wants him.

If you don't like the contract duration you can either blame the current market - where there is a severe shortage of quality SL players, or Steve Price's judgement. Just as TS was rightly held to account for handing out a long contract to Russell. Why he even gave Russell a new contract, let alone a lengthy one, is probably one of the greatest mysteries of the modern game.
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Re: Jack Hughes : Tue Dec 18, 2018 1:03 pm  
When Russell signed the 3-year contract he was the best fullback at Warrington. It was only after the Widnes game (when he got injured) that he went downhill.
https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/ma ... o-success/
When Russell signed the 3-year contract he was the best fullback at Warrington. It was only after the Widnes game (when he got injured) that he went downhill.
https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/ma ... o-success/
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Re: Jack Hughes : Tue Dec 18, 2018 1:56 pm  
I remember Russell playing the worst game he or any other Wire fullback has ever played for Wire.
The CC semi final vs Leeds at Widnes I think it was.
He was god awful from the first second....in contrast BWW...I don't think he got any worse he just didn't get much better.
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