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Re: The Marquee Rule. : Thu Jan 17, 2019 1:26 pm  
Without a upper limit on the marquee rule it allows.... for eg purpose only.

2 players get paid £1m each as marquee for one season while they both come off marquee the season after and take £100k each...

2 different players then become the 2 marquees and the alternation is complete.
Potential players earning £1.1m each plus bonus over 2 years.

It's a loophole that without an upper tariff on the marquee payment, can be exercised.

Clark being on a bumper wage this season to incorporate some of next year's pay allows us to sign Widdop in 2020.
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Re: The Marquee Rule. : Thu Jan 17, 2019 1:35 pm  
ok, this is going to be fun.
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Re: The Marquee Rule. : Thu Jan 17, 2019 1:40 pm  
Fantastic Mr Catpiss wrote:
ok, this is going to be fun.

Isn't it.
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Re: The Marquee Rule. : Thu Jan 17, 2019 1:49 pm  
Worryingly I understand the point, but can't be bothered checking the rules. If it isn't caught by the rules its a cracking idea but perhaps not one that should be publicised!
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Re: The Marquee Rule. : Thu Jan 17, 2019 1:53 pm  
There's been loopholes before and Wigan always find them.
There's probably only Wire could exercise the loophole anyway so I doubt very much it has been closed, because it hasn't been a point of objection.
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Re: The Marquee Rule. : Thu Jan 17, 2019 2:09 pm  
this obvs is what you referred to last week and no one took you up on it, what you're on about is back/front loading a contract. much like captain hook i don't know the full laws BUT when they went to the live cap, they stopped this and contract values were averaged out over the length of the contract to prevent ppl from doing this in order to fiddle the (spirit of it anyway) cap.
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Re: The Marquee Rule. : Thu Jan 17, 2019 2:27 pm  
Fantastic Mr Catpiss wrote:
this obvs is what you referred to last week and no one took you up on it, what you're on about is back/front loading a contract. much like captain hook i don't know the full laws BUT when they went to the live cap, they stopped this and contract values were averaged out over the length of the contract to prevent ppl from doing this in order to fiddle the (spirit of it anyway) cap.

Even if they had closed this loophole as you pointed out... that still couldnt stop us from 'loading' Clark for this season with whatever, arranging an new contract with him ahead of next season on a lower amount, because Widdop contract starts next season and thus potentially having 3 marquee players with 2 spots.
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Re: The Marquee Rule. : Thu Jan 17, 2019 2:52 pm  
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Even if they had closed this loophole as you pointed out... that still couldnt stop us from 'loading' Clark for this season with whatever, arranging an new contract with him ahead of next season on a lower amount, because Widdop contract starts next season and thus potentially having 3 marquee players with 2 spots.


So let’s assume Clark is on £200k per year. You think we are going to tear up his current contract, and give him a 1 year deal for £400k, then offer him a new contract of £100k per year for years 2 & 3 mid way through his £400k year?

There is far too much risk involved in that.

The far more obvious explanation is that Clark was never marquee in the first place.
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Re: The Marquee Rule. : Thu Jan 17, 2019 4:09 pm  
rubber duckie wrote:
Without a upper limit on the marquee rule it allows.... for eg purpose only.

2 players get paid £1m each as marquee for one season while they both come off marquee the season after and take £100k each...

2 different players then become the 2 marquees and the alternation is complete.
Potential players earning £1.1m each plus bonus over 2 years.

It's a loophole that without an upper tariff on the marquee payment, can be exercised.

Clark being on a bumper wage this season to incorporate some of next year's pay allows us to sign Widdop in 2020.




The RFL rules on salary cap refer to payments made and[b] accrued (income earned but not yet received). So, for eg if you drafted a contract with £100k first year, £300k second, the accrued income must be recognised in the period in which it is recognised and not in the period in which it was paid. Similarly, a pre payment is the opposite and is money received but which has not yet been earned, so would be allocated to the following year.

So I am pretty sure the accountants would look at the contract on 'an accruals' basis and say the individual is being paid £400k over 2 years which is £200k per year on the cap.

It may sound a good wheeze, but it wouldn't get past the accountant overseeing the cap regulations.
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Re: The Marquee Rule. : Thu Jan 17, 2019 4:11 pm  
He has never been a marquee player. That was from Karl Fitzpatrick at one of the forum meetings last season.
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