Re: Anyone want stone back now? : Sun Apr 15, 2018 9:57 pm  

Playing Jools?
Toss up which was worse - us or the ref?

Think we got it -just!

Re: Anyone want stone back now? : Mon Apr 16, 2018 12:24 pm  

jools wrote:

No thanks. Losing and playing like that is even worse.

id rather have super league points/wins and a top 8 finish

Re: Anyone want stone back now? : Mon Apr 16, 2018 6:49 pm  

GIANTSRL wrote:

id rather have super league points/wins and a top 8 finish

Would t we all- but stone wasn’t going to give us that.

Re: Anyone want stone back now? : Mon Apr 16, 2018 7:08 pm  

jools wrote:

Would t we all- but stone wasn’t going to give us that.

And so far neither has Thorman. One point from a possible eight is hardly a great start, but niether is it long enough to judge him, He does deserve a chance at it, but there is no way i would give him the job until he proves he can do it.
Personally i would rather he concentrate on doing that than giving interviews and telling us how well he gets on with the board. If he's any good it will show on the field.

Re: Anyone want stone back now? : Mon Apr 16, 2018 11:05 pm  

what confuses me is why we didnt pursue as closely as possible (fitness permitting) the squad & formation that ran the Rhinos so close after the France debacle
It would have been just reward and a further confidence booster to lads who worked their socks off to compete with one of the top teams -- but no --lets play the musical chairs team selection gambit again ---and we aint half good at that !! How the hell can you maintain team spirit and an understanding between players when you have to play the better paid "names"
Another failing is bringing in kids into a struggling side--I know -got to cos of injuries !
But they need nursing along gradually and getting some leadership fromtheir elders
Its a tough sport and seasoned pro thugs like to show whos boss.
I know of some ex players who made it clear to these opponents that if they crossed the line with the young
`uns it wouldnt get unnoticed!! Everyones got to learn the ropes but a big jump up to supereleague too quickly can really knock the confidence of promising youngsters . At the moment itt seems as a club weve little alternative which to me indicates a serious failing in the organisation that needs addressing urgently before tagents come calling The better ones are then lost to glamour clubs and alll the good groundwork is wasted .Seen it too many times!!

Re: Anyone want stone back now? : Tue Apr 17, 2018 6:18 am  

Crackerjack wrote:

what confuses me is why we didnt pursue as closely as possible (fitness permitting) the squad & formation that ran the Rhinos so close after the France debacle
It would have been just reward and a further confidence booster to lads who worked their socks off to compete with one of the top teams -- but no --lets play the musical chairs team selection gambit again ---and we aint half good at that !! How the hell can you maintain team spirit and an understanding between players when you have to play the better paid "names"
Another failing is bringing in kids into a struggling side--I know -got to cos of injuries !
But they need nursing along gradually and getting some leadership fromtheir elders
Its a tough sport and seasoned pro thugs like to show whos boss.
I know of some ex players who made it clear to these opponents that if they crossed the line with the young
`uns it wouldnt get unnoticed!! Everyones got to learn the ropes but a big jump up to supereleague too quickly can really knock the confidence of promising youngsters . At the moment itt seems as a club weve little alternative which to me indicates a serious failing in the organisation that needs addressing urgently before tagents come calling The better ones are then lost to glamour clubs and alll the good groundwork is wasted .Seen it too many times!!

The “musical chairs” was necessary due to injuries and the fact we had played again three days later and some had already played ill or injured.
I’m sure otherwise that would have been the case.
As for the young uns- you appear to be contradicting yourself in that you want to keep a winning side, and want to keep the youngsters but don’t want us to keep playing them. Sadly that’s not what youngsters want- they want to play.
Please point out the “many” “better ones” we have lost to glamour clubs- I’m not aware of many ex giants who’ve made it at other clubs Connor T King

Re: Anyone want stone back now? : Tue Apr 17, 2018 8:53 am  

May isn't the deadline for signing, it's when players can be spoken with.

Re: Anyone want stone back now? : Tue Apr 17, 2018 12:39 pm  

jools wrote:

Would t we all- but stone wasn’t going to give us that.

no one will know now. he did in 2017.

but he was a dead man walking once the club decided they werent going to renew his contract. players knew this

Re: Anyone want stone back now? : Tue Apr 17, 2018 12:40 pm  

Ivor C&G Scarf wrote:

May isn't the deadline for signing, it's when players can be spoken with.

might be a good idea to get a new coach in before that then... otherwise we will get a new coach given players he doesnt want or never heard of!

Re: Anyone want stone back now? : Tue Apr 17, 2018 11:15 pm  

jools wrote:

The “musical chairs” was necessary due to injuries and the fact we had played again three days later and some had already played ill or injured.
I’m sure otherwise that would have been the case.
As for the young uns- you appear to be contradicting yourself in that you want to keep a winning side, and want to keep the youngsters but don’t want us to keep playing them. Sadly that’s not what youngsters want- they want to play.
Please point out the “many” “better ones” we have lost to glamour clubs- I’m not aware of many ex giants who’ve made it at other clubs Connor T King

Sorry Jools obviously misled you
1 THE younguns may WANT TO play - thats good but I`m saying that the ideal structure is to introduce them into a teamthats going well with senior players setting an example - not throwing them to the Lionsin a struggling team out of desperation. Hows that going to develop them and give them confidence ? You wouldnt pitch the best 18 year old at Longwood harriers against Mo Farah
As for your second point , any good youngsters who show they can hack it in a struggling team in SL will certainly be approached Id bet if we end upin the million pound game or worse......
And if its a glamour team that comes knocking - and they want to progress - it will be a hard decision theyre facing
Thats the predicament wed be facing soon if thingsdont change sadly !