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Re: Matt Davies : Thu Nov 23, 2017 12:32 pm  
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but only one was given about $30,000,000 in central funding and a leg up to the top table, combined with quite probably another 30,000,000 in private funding, all of which it pe'd up the wall and is now heading for mid table mediocrity in 2018:CRAZY:


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Re: Matt Davies : Thu Nov 23, 2017 5:35 pm  
No dog, you constantly campaign for DH to walk. What you seem unable to accept is is if DH decides he has had enough tomorrow, no one is going to step in, that was proven last time he nearly had enough, we ended up with 6 staff on the payroll.
Your comment was "what's the point"? To me that's someone who thinks we should give up, not twisting at all just reading your words.
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JESUS WEPT :WALL: HOW MANY TIMES?????
£20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000.
The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover.

There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT:

Re: Matt Davies : Thu Nov 23, 2017 6:04 pm  
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No dog, you constantly campaign for DH to walk. What you seem unable to accept is is if DH decides he has had enough tomorrow, no one is going to step in, that was proven last time he nearly had enough, we ended up with 6 staff on the payroll.
Your comment was "what's the point"? To me that's someone who thinks we should give up, not twisting at all just reading your words.

The last time we had a complete clusterknob as CEO who did nothing other than cover his own 'arris from day one and by the time we got spanked at Leigh By Wigan, any one of the apostles and Christ himself would have had enough......

I say "what is the point"...and then continue with "...doing the same thing over and over and not getting the message that what you're doing isn't the right thing".........Hughes ca stay....his money can stay......but for gods sake, employ someone with drive and vision to get us nearer self sufficiency. All he ever employs are YES MEN.

It is an established business fact that when a private company goes public, the best course of action is to make the original owner CEO and stick a managing director between them and direct control.......therefore limiting the original owner from carrying on as before but with shareholders cash at risk.......this is exactly what should have happened a decade ago and is still a valid course of action now if you want the club to survive!........I have no knowledge of Jason Loubser other than he is an accountant who is responsible for the financial well-being of the club......I am sure he's a lovely fella but fiscally, we are no less reliant on Hughes than we ever were........Einstein had a saying about doing the same thing over and over gain..... :CRAZY: :CRAZY:
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Re: Matt Davies : Thu Nov 23, 2017 11:14 pm  
Give over living in the past fella you can't change it. What you think should have happened 10 years ago didn't, nowt can be done about it.
Reality check unless you have a few million each year to spend each you ain't gonna change the future either.

We are a championship club, we are playing at the level we should be at, for the moment our super days are over, not to say that will not change.
As for being self sufficient, not many clubs are so why should we be any different.
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£20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000.
The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover.

There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT:

Re: Matt Davies : Thu Nov 23, 2017 11:58 pm  
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Reality check unless you have a few million each year to spend each you ain't gonna change the future either.

We have a couple of million each year........and we continue to waste it!
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Re: Matt Davies : Fri Nov 24, 2017 12:36 am  
No we don't have anything.
Mr Hughes has a couple of million to spend each year, there is no we in it!
If he stops spending it, there is no club simple!!
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£20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000.
The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover.

There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT:

Re: Matt Davies : Fri Nov 24, 2017 12:42 am  
northernbloke wrote:
No we don't have anything.
Mr Hughes has a couple of million to spend each year, there is no we in it!
If he stops spending it, there is no club simple!!

Mr Hughes gives the club 2 million a year and insists on us wasting it year on year.....what Mr Hughes needs to do is give us the 2 million and then let the club build with it rather than simply waste it year in year out.....
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Re: Matt Davies : Fri Nov 24, 2017 8:43 am  
Hear hear to that. Shame this has fell into a one on one in the last few days but I don’t see CMG saying I told you so here. Yes we are where we are, but action is urgently needed to prepare for a non Hughes future, and only David can do that,
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Re: Matt Davies : Fri Nov 24, 2017 12:20 pm  
Don't think anyone denies that new investment is required for the club to thrive. Everyone seems to assume that our current owner is doing nothing to plan for his departure. I just can't see the point of constant whinging and whining about past decisions and choices.
Like I say unless one of us wants to step up with a couple of million each year he is what we have.
As for suggestion that he should just give the club the money and have no input to the club, yep of course that's going to happen! If you were putting the money in would you do that?
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Re: Matt Davies : Fri Nov 24, 2017 1:49 pm  
Anyhow! Enough of that
Can't recall seeing Matt play last year, did he get much first team experience? I know not that many people seem happy that he has been signed back on, what do folk seriously think of his prospects?
It s good to see another local lad coming though and as a youngster he will not make a big hole in the salary budget
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