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Re: Andrew : Sat Oct 14, 2017 8:19 pm  
Ddi Hendo make a statement or has he just picked up and gone?
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JESUS WEPT :WALL: HOW MANY TIMES?????
£20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000.
The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover.

There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT:

Re: Andrew : Sat Oct 14, 2017 10:06 pm  
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Ddi Hendo make a statement or has he just picked up and gone?

from the club site
Head Coach, Andrew Henderson, said, “This is a sad time for me, leaving a club that has really progressed during my tenure. I would like to thank David Hughes and Jason Loubser for putting their trust in me as Head Coach here and wish the players, coaching staff and fans all the best for the future.”
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Re: Andrew : Sat Oct 14, 2017 11:14 pm  
So no 2 of yr top 3 then god means Toronto should not qualify for franchise then? Just saying!
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Re: Andrew : Sat Oct 14, 2017 11:40 pm  
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So no 2 of yr top 3 then god means Toronto should not qualify for franchise then? Just saying!


Check out Ralph Rimmer's quote at a Bradford Bulls supporters event recently. He laid out 4 return on investment criteria teams will be expected to meet to get central funding. Toronto meet two on the spot, providing a new audience and new funding. London arguably meet one, providing new playing resources.

The world is changing. London have a serious chance of getting a franchise. If they don't it's game over. Semi pro from here on. I think it is fairly well known I am a joint season ticket holder at Broncos and Oxford. I'm expecting to be told tomorrow that I only have one team to watch next year. New central funding rules are kicking in and London need to work to them or else.....
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Re: Andrew : Sun Oct 15, 2017 3:51 pm  
as the RFL now allow you to have fingers in many pies after stopping pieman Lennigan investing in us as well as Wigan maybe Lennigan and Toronto will form a consortium to keep us in a super league if it goes the franchise route. Then I woke up
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£20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000.
The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover.

There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT:

Re: Andrew : Sun Oct 15, 2017 7:18 pm  
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So no 2 of yr top 3 then god means Toronto should not qualify for franchise then? Just saying!

Toronto seem to tick quite a few boxes......I say seem because some think they have over reported crowds. :CRAZY:
They are backed financially (as are we...but they seem to do more than just accept the handouts and wait for more)
They have a plan which they make no secret of and have ambition, huger and expertise in place.
They market themselves and the game to the extreme
They cost traditional clubs nothing....nada....zilch. If anything, they attracted some of the bigger crowds to their away games this year.

I'd have Toronto in tomorrow in a newly formed and franchised SL before the likes of Salford, Wakefield, London, Huddersfield et al......they have started with aplomb but the proof of the pudding is in the eating and as we're not getting that just yet, let's see how they build on their stellar work in year 2.....3 and 4.
If they are a top 4 Ch team next year, then anything can happen.........and on paper they are the strongest side in the division thus far.
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Re: Andrew : Sun Oct 15, 2017 9:24 pm  
Your top 3 criteria
Financially stable!!! Are Toronto not a rich mans toy at the moment?
Youth development! Toronto don't have any.
Stadia! Sub standard pitch for NL1.
So by your top 3 requirements Toronto don't qualify
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£20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000.
The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover.

There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT:

Re: Andrew : Sun Oct 15, 2017 11:20 pm  
northernbloke wrote:
Your top 3 criteria
Financially stable!!! Are Toronto not a rich mans toy at the moment?
Youth development! Toronto don't have any.
Stadia! Sub standard pitch for NL1.
So by your top 3 requirements Toronto don't qualify

They are currently stable
The are currently trawling the continent for new players
They play in a stadium that is adequate for the climate that they play their games in......I've seen little complaint about uncovered seating.

BTW...the irony of anyone from London questioning a stadium or calling it substandard is quite delicious........we play out of a wedding venue FFS. :lol:

You seem intent on arguing with me on many points purely because it's me.......you really have no basis to argue against the point that Toronto have started light years ahead of where we were after 20 years in the top flight....they are fully deserving of praise as we are fully deserving of ridicule.

If Henderson had any inkling that we'd be in SL any time soon he would have stayed...he didn't! Toronto will be in the mix at the end of next year and we won't.....
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Re: Andrew : Mon Oct 16, 2017 7:27 am  
If Henderson had any inkling that we'd be in SL any time soon he would have stayed


Thats how I read his statement in league express. Took us as far as he could.
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Re: Andrew : Mon Oct 16, 2017 10:21 am  
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Took us as far as he could.


As far as he could because of his level of experience and ability as a coach, or as far as he could given the limited money pot and resources ?
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