Re: Million Pound Game : Tue Oct 03, 2017 9:01 am  

Or you could look at a more successful comp that has promotion and relegation, I think they call it football premiership in the UK.
*NRL has much different dynamics involved because of the geography of the game.
as for p&r only being interesting if you are involved!!!!!you can say that about any game, let's scrap the grand final then!
Catalan and overseas players! So should Toronto just be n American players? The game has developed in France Toulouse are credit to that.

The answers are not easy.
Should SL be A 14 team comp? Or why not 16 franchise? P&R? They all have pros and cons, I will say the super 8s game generated more media coverage this year than in lots before.

Re: Million Pound Game : Thu Oct 12, 2017 9:58 am  

RL is not soccer, we should protect and encourage ambition for the benefit of the sport. Two divisions of 10 with p&r between them and a 3 year licence protects the current ambitious clubs, allows expansion and provides those wanting to be ambitious a defined timeline/pathway to succeed. London, Toulouse and Toronto should be in that structure

Re: Million Pound Game : Thu Oct 12, 2017 12:28 pm  

Two divisions of 10 assume you mean second and third tier?
How many in the top flight then? And question being what criteria do you use for the licence system? At the end of the 3 years how do you then demote/promote someone??? The problem with franchise is you then have 12/13/14 clubs who are getting the money from tv etc in theory cementing there position in that top flight, what process do you then use to change that top flight make up?
No one said rl was soccer, but it's not NRL either! All that was suggested was that franchise worked for one of the biggest competitions that being NRL.
Let's take RU instead then, you could argue that they are very close to the way RL works, I think Exeter are a prime example of how p&r can work successfully

Re: Million Pound Game : Fri Oct 13, 2017 12:44 pm  

No I mean a two division full time SL. we should be currently able to central fund £1.8m and £1m pa respectively, but secure a better deal to increase that imo. One up/down between divisions and possibly a 2nd bottom v second top million pound game. Clubs apply to join every 3 years, at which point failing clubs can be replaced or the leagues expanded. The gap would be closer and fixtures very competitive in both comps, I also believe in min spends not max

Re: Million Pound Game : Fri Oct 13, 2017 1:41 pm  

2 conferences of 8 or 9, split on broadly 'geographical' lines - Yorks + London and Toronto / Lancs + Toulouse and Les Cats. Home away fixtures home or away as cross conference. Play off for Grand Final involving both conferences, and relegation, for one team. One cross conference game for Magic or 'on the road'. Conference 'of Origin' game to get the juices flowing. Monies graduated down finishing position, 12 home games, 12 away, one neutral. Offers more local derbies, hopefully more simple tv scheduling. Championship level below offers existing teams plus any new comers the chance to get into the top level, possibly in one year.

Re: Million Pound Game : Sat Oct 14, 2017 8:16 am  

The problem of a chasm between SL and Champ is fixed by narrowing it rather than pulling up the drawbridge and so I find myself agreeing with Maurice. It is not very long ago that we had 20k+ attending the Champ Final with a big TV audience.

Re: Million Pound Game : Sat Oct 14, 2017 8:20 pm  

t is not very long ago that we had 20k+ attending the Champ Final with a big TV audience.

When was this?

Re: Million Pound Game : Sat Oct 14, 2017 10:16 pm  

maurice wrote:

No I mean a two division full time SL. we should be currently able to central fund £1.8m and £1m pa respectively, but secure a better deal to increase that imo. One up/down between divisions and possibly a 2nd bottom v second top million pound game. Clubs apply to join every 3 years, at which point failing clubs can be replaced or the leagues expanded. The gap would be closer and fixtures very competitive in both comps, I also believe in min spends not max

I'd settle for a 16 teams (2 conferences of in a licensed SL with strict criteria surrounding player development, financial sustainability and other independently monitored facets surrounding the running of the clubs in general. Play your conference buddies H&A and the other conference teams once meaning 22 games with the top 2 in each conference playing semi's and the winners the GF and the bottom clubs in either conference playing off with the loser to play the top 2nd tier team in a MPG.

I believe that this system would be the current 12 SL sides with the top 4 of the Championship 2018 joining.

I don't think there is either the player pool nor the finance to support 20 sides at a decent level in the UK at present, but if all 16 sides were enforced to run academy sides with a view to having reserve grades as mandatory after 5 years, then I believe we would see the player pool grow.

Re: Million Pound Game : Sun Oct 15, 2017 8:53 am  

wire-quin wrote: When was this? I just looked it up. A mere 10 years ago. We built the Champ final up into a big event and then stopped it. Leeds don't even get 20,800 at Headingley. https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2007/ ... ague.sport Some decent players on display and a much bigger event than the MPG. And it could be again.

wire-quin wrote: When was this? I just looked it up. A mere 10 years ago. We built the Champ final up into a big event and then stopped it. Leeds don't even get 20,800 at Headingley. https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2007/ ... ague.sport Some decent players on display and a much bigger event than the MPG. And it could be again.

Re: Million Pound Game : Sun Oct 15, 2017 11:25 pm  

Colly2 wrote: I just looked it up. A mere 10 years ago. We built the Champ final up into a big event and then stopped it. Leeds don't even get 20,800 at Headingley. https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2007/ ... ague.sport Some decent players on display and a much bigger event than the MPG. And it could be again. Joe Westerman....now there's a talent that never reached its potential.....

Colly2 wrote: I just looked it up. A mere 10 years ago. We built the Champ final up into a big event and then stopped it. Leeds don't even get 20,800 at Headingley. https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2007/ ... ague.sport Some decent players on display and a much bigger event than the MPG. And it could be again. Joe Westerman....now there's a talent that never reached its potential.....