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Re: Toronto woes : Thu Jan 18, 2018 4:06 pm  
I can cover HK and HB!!!
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Re: Toronto woes : Thu Jan 18, 2018 4:16 pm  
Me in the middle, as long as your not a gobby HB we will get on ok
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JESUS WEPT :WALL: HOW MANY TIMES?????
£20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000.
The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover.

There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT:

Re: Toronto woes : Thu Jan 18, 2018 8:21 pm  
Does this mean that the Wolfpack are now under the cap?
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Re: Toronto woes : Fri Jan 19, 2018 7:14 am  
HA HA HA HA
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Re: Toronto woes : Wed Jan 24, 2018 9:48 am  
Some interesting comments from Ralph rimmer on Toronto SL promotion
Woodsys parting shot is to conduct a review on "return of investment^ and value in the comp.
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£20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000.
The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover.

There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT:

Re: Toronto woes : Wed Jan 24, 2018 6:57 pm  
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Some interesting comments from Ralph rimmer on Toronto SL promotion
Woodsys parting shot is to conduct a review on "return of investment^ and value in the comp.


Toronto turned down the 75k last year and I believe have waived the 150k central funding this year, as well as covering costs for UK clubs travel and accommodation. This year the investment from their sponsor is minimised by the skewed fixture list with the added bonus of no "extra" costs for getting Toulouse to an airport served by AirTransat.........so to date, they've diluted the talent pool and sorted out an extremely minor TV deal in Canada with a bolt on of "shed tv" coverage in the UK through premiere.
There have been repeated stories of the biggest task last year being keeping the squad sober and out of houses of Ill repute, as they knew a they had to do was turn up........
...I am increasingly under the impression that the business plan is to get teams into SL to receive the SKY cash to cover some running costs and then look for a TV deal.......and that's not a pan, but more of a "punt"........something along the lines of PSG and to a lesser extent, us.
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Re: Toronto woes : Wed Jan 24, 2018 7:37 pm  
All depends how woodsy sees it
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£20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000.
The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover.

There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT:

Re: Toronto woes : Wed Jan 24, 2018 10:50 pm  
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All depends how woodsy sees it

...alas, no more.
Adam Pearson and his fellow 11 SL crusaders who believe that by May we will be able to compete with Union will dictate who joins them at the table. Currently I see a Toronto Wolpack side with a contra-deal for their main shirt sponsor, with no other paying sponsors, no paying TV deal and no plans other than chasing a SL paycheck in the "hope" that they can then deliver a TV deal......and to me, it's becoming more of a pipe dream by every turn of the page.
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Re: Toronto woes : Thu Jan 25, 2018 4:06 pm  
If the North Americans see enough of top RL, they may get hooked, so don't rule out TV deals. TV is always looking for something new, you never know if RL may be it. Don't rule out TWP, they sure know how to charm the media.
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Re: Toronto woes : Thu Jan 25, 2018 5:22 pm  
Dog, not sure about your alas no more comment on woodsy, care to explain
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