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Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Fri Aug 10, 2018 8:18 am  
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That was my take on it too.


saying that i hope it is used to the benefit of the club is absolutely normal, genuine and to be honest quite logical. so there are now two users on here chosing to nit pick...
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Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Fri Aug 10, 2018 8:22 am  
Ziggy Stardust wrote:
The Millions Lenners has already put into the club and signing one of the best thought of coaches in RU puts any of this nonsense that he is taking money from the club to bed.

He is piling loads in and now we have to get behind the new coaches.

Lenners spends a fortune on Wigan RL.


you are quite right, the two coach signing does go a long way to quash concerns from anyone about how the club is being run. but there is nothing wrong with wanting a little more clarity on the matter and where the club goes on from here is there.
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Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Fri Aug 10, 2018 8:24 am  
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saying that i hope it is used to the benefit of the club is absolutely normal, genuine and to be honest quite logical. so there are now two users on here chosing to nit pick...


Only if you have at least half a suspicion that it won't be ... which I find bewildering.

Where else do you think the money from player sales goes other than back into the club?
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Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Fri Aug 10, 2018 8:37 am  
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Only if you have at least half a suspicion that it won't be ... which I find bewildering.

Where else do you think the money from player sales goes other than back into the club?


again, you are reading into my comments way too much simply for the benefit of being able to create an arguement. the sign of an absolute wallop if i must.

i merely stated that i hoped it went back into the club by way of "is it going to be used on new contracts or new players", or has it all gone on the new coaches, or is it being used elsewhere within the club or not? its quite a simple and honest thought to have and until it is shown where that money is going i see no reason why a fan cant have this thought / concern. he has already claimed he is not getting another SR in, so are we likely to bring in Lam Jrn with that money, or another player perhaps? an honest thought, nothing untoward about wondering whats going to be done with it.

i'll even go as far to say that since the announcement of ST leaving, i think the club has done some really good business both inwards and outbound. its gone a long way to reassuring me that the club is heading back in the right direction. i'd simply like that to continue. forgive me for caring.
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Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Fri Aug 10, 2018 8:46 am  
WiganBurt wrote:
glad someone talks sense on here.

Whoosh! :lol:
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Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Fri Aug 10, 2018 9:13 am  
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again, you are reading into my comments way too much simply for the benefit of being able to create an arguement. the sign of an absolute wallop if i must.

i merely stated that i hoped it went back into the club by way of "is it going to be used on new contracts or new players", or has it all gone on the new coaches, or is it being used elsewhere within the club or not? its quite a simple and honest thought to have and until it is shown where that money is going i see no reason why a fan cant have this thought / concern. he has already claimed he is not getting another SR in, so are we likely to bring in Lam Jrn with that money, or another player perhaps? an honest thought, nothing untoward about wondering whats going to be done with it.

i'll even go as far to say that since the announcement of ST leaving, i think the club has done some really good business both inwards and outbound. its gone a long way to reassuring me that the club is heading back in the right direction. i'd simply like that to continue. forgive me for caring.


That's not what he said - He said that we are well covered in that area and listed the players - He didn't say that we Wouldn't be bringing anyone else in.

And here is the crux

You have been insinuating for Months now that there is some kind of Financial mis-management/Underhanded situation going on at the club.
Then when people challenge that you turn and say that's not what your saying at all.
3 pages or so ago talking about IFL "Lining His & His Business pockets".

So simple question.

A/ Do you believe that IL/KR or whoever is Mis-managing the Clubs financials for their own benefit, making money out of the club etc. i.e. When they make a profit or sell a player IFL pockets the money personally

Or

B/ Do you think he runs it at a Net Loss and puts the rest in (Loans it etc. which BTW amazes me when people worry about this) and it actually costs him money as he plugs the gap?


If it's
A/ Then be prepared to get yourself a Lawyer
B/ Then why keep going on about & worrying & asking for more clarity on how a Business runs when we have very little right to do so?
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Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Fri Aug 10, 2018 9:40 am  
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That's not what he said - He said that we are well covered in that area and listed the players - He didn't say that we Wouldn't be bringing anyone else in.

And here is the crux

You have been insinuating for Months now that there is some kind of Financial mis-management/Underhanded situation going on at the club.
Then when people challenge that you turn and say that's not what your saying at all.
3 pages or so ago talking about IFL "Lining His & His Business pockets".

So simple question.

A/ Do you believe that IL/KR or whoever is Mis-managing the Clubs financials for their own benefit, making money out of the club etc. i.e. When they make a profit or sell a player IFL pockets the money personally

Or

B/ Do you think he runs it at a Net Loss and puts the rest in (Loans it etc. which BTW amazes me when people worry about this) and it actually costs him money as he plugs the gap?


If it's
A/ Then be prepared to get yourself a Lawyer
B/ Then why keep going on about & worrying & asking for more clarity on how a Business runs when we have very little right to do so?


you are right i have, yet today i have also pointed out that the more recent dealings the club has performed have gone a long way to appeasing those concerns i had.

but before we carry on at no point did i say IL was up to no good, at no point did i say there was something untoward going on. my point since joing this board was that i felt the club had handled contracts poorly, giving out money left right and centre to those not deserving or those who ended up throwing it back in our faces. where is the element of something untoward there? all that means is that i think the contract negotiations and whoever controlled them was having a bloody mare!!

i also may have said he is probably lining his pockets but he is a business man, why wouldn't he be?! i dont even care if he is, as long as he is looking after the club in the process, which like i said he seems to be doing, of late at the very least.

so to answer your question, considering you've had the decency to at least communicate with me rather than argue the toos like some others on here, then B. but you cannot tell me how to run my life, i can do with it as i wish and feel how i feel. if i care about the wellfare of the club so be it. there's nothing wrong or untoward about that is there. i'm sure many of you all feel the same.

and surely as fans we have a right to know / ask about whats going on regarding the club, or do you expect us to go blindly into season ticket renewals, the purchase of god knows how many different forms of club gear and trips to AUS every year just presuming that everything will be all right?! i think you are being a little too nit-picky, thats all.

if you don't liek the fact that i obviously had / have concerns then fair enough, but don't expect me to change my views just because they don't agree with others please.
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Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Fri Aug 10, 2018 9:41 am  
[quote="Jukesays"]That's not what he said - He said that we are well covered in that area and listed the players - He didn't say that we Wouldn't be bringing anyone else in.[quote]

and neither did I, i said he woudln't be bringing in another SR, not ANY players. again, with the nit-picking ont he detail folks! seriously....
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King Johns II wrote: 11th July 2018
2019 - Lam (Edwards part time in background)
2020 - Edwards

Mr Lebron James replied with :CRAZY:

King Johns II wrote: 11th July 2018
I am just letting you know what I have heard is happening the moral or professional aspects are not being discussed.
Lam will be the main coach 2019 and Edwards will work along side but not in public view until 2020 maybe we will end up following the Leeds Rhinos director of rugby style.

And Mr Lebron James replied with !!!!!! :DRUMMER:

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Do you want to have a bet on that? I will bet whatever you want on it as long as there is a third party to hold the money.
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Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Fri Aug 10, 2018 9:56 am  
Last Son of Wigan wrote:
I wonder if Gelling as a clause in his contract which sees his contract void if they go down?


No he dont have a clause in his contract.

Dont want him back at Wigan
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King Johns II wrote: 11th July 2018
2019 - Lam (Edwards part time in background)
2020 - Edwards

Mr Lebron James replied with :CRAZY:

King Johns II wrote: 11th July 2018
I am just letting you know what I have heard is happening the moral or professional aspects are not being discussed.
Lam will be the main coach 2019 and Edwards will work along side but not in public view until 2020 maybe we will end up following the Leeds Rhinos director of rugby style.

And Mr Lebron James replied with !!!!!! :DRUMMER:

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Do you want to have a bet on that? I will bet whatever you want on it as long as there is a third party to hold the money.
Regards - King James (Lebron)

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Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Fri Aug 10, 2018 9:59 am  
MadDogg wrote:
https://www.wigantoday.net/sport/rugby-league/wigan-warriors/three-clubs-interested-in-williams-1-9292916

A little frustrating that we apparently need to have another 'conversation' with Williams barely a year after he signed his marquee contract.

I sympathise with the club in that it must be very difficult when NRL clubs are constantly getting in the ears of our players (certainly not ethical, is it even contractually legal?) but there must come a point when we hold players to the commitments they have made?

I believe Sutton, Bateman and Williams are good mates and socialise a lot together so that probably won't help either.


You didnt actually think signing a new contract last year would stop this speculation......did you?

I am quite surprised by the majority of Wigan fans worrying about GW moving on considering the amount of flack he gets on all forums and board. I am a big fan and he is perfect for Wigan moving forward with Lam / Edwards I think GW will be more excited at staying at Wigan to be coached by Wigan Legends than risk the NRL. Not many 6 or 7 go down under from SL as many or reject NRL versions come to UK to fill spots the UK boys cant make work eg Drinkwater
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