Re: Scrum half : Sat Apr 14, 2018 12:00 pm  

Bigredwarrior wrote:

Williams is at the heart of our left side attack and if people can’t see it then I don’t know what they’re watching. We’re scoring loads down that edge and it’s his involvement and the way he is engaging defenders and getting them interested that is opening up defences and creating the opening for th centres and wingers.
He doesn’t have to be scoring length of the field tries to be effective.

Seriously? I don’t know what you’ve been watching. Engaging defenders? Opening up defences? That’s tosh mate. I’m not asking for full lengthers, I’m asking for effectiveness and creativity instead of being a greedy get and doing his usual predictable garbage.

Re: Scrum half : Sat Apr 14, 2018 12:29 pm  

100% Warrior wrote:

Seriously? I don’t know what you’ve been watching. Engaging defenders? Opening up defences? That’s tosh mate. I’m not asking for full lengthers, I’m asking for effectiveness and creativity instead of being a greedy get and doing his usual predictable garbage.

Go back a few weeks and watch the tries down our left edge. Virtually every one of them starts with a burst of speed or a great pass from GW. Is he playing perfectly? No but he sure as heck doesn’t deserve some of the tosh on here at the moment!

Re: Scrum half : Sat Apr 14, 2018 12:39 pm  

Bigredwarrior wrote:

Go back a few weeks and watch the tries down our left edge. Virtually every one of them starts with a burst of speed or a great pass from GW. Is he playing perfectly? No but he sure as heck doesn’t deserve some of the tosh on here at the moment!

He deserves everything he gets! He’s just going through the motions and has been since he got his marquee deal sorted. I still say that he should be dropped to the bench, every other player has been switched and rotated to try and find a solution to our woeful half back situation, but George continues with the same predictable shoite week in week out and nothing changes. Maybe he has a clause in his marquee contract that says he can’t be dropped!

Re: Scrum half : Sat Apr 14, 2018 12:49 pm  

hatty wrote:

He deserves everything he gets! He’s just going through the motions and has been since he got his marquee deal sorted. I still say that he should be dropped to the bench, every other player has been switched and rotated to try and find a solution to our woeful half back situation, but George continues with the same predictable shoite week in week out and nothing changes. Maybe he has a clause in his marquee contract that says he can’t be dropped!

Wow, some people just can’t see the wood for the trees or simply don’t understand rugby league.

Re: Scrum half : Sat Apr 14, 2018 1:24 pm  

Bigredwarrior wrote:

Wow, some people just can’t see the wood for the trees or simply don’t understand rugby league.

I played the game for 18yrs I think I’ve a pretty good understanding

Re: Scrum half : Sat Apr 14, 2018 1:38 pm  

hatty wrote:

I played the game for 18yrs I think I’ve a pretty good understanding

I agree there’s room for improvement with GW but can you really not see how his involvement inside our left edge is causing opposing teams trouble? Lockers did the same last week at Catalan and was rightly credited for what he did. GW has set up a load of tries down that side and I certainly wouldn’t want to see him lining up against us that’s for sure, even in his current form.

Re: Scrum half : Sat Apr 14, 2018 1:44 pm  

Bigredwarrior wrote:

I agree there’s room for improvement with GW but can you really not see how his involvement inside our left edge is causing team trouble? Lockers did the same last week at Catalan and was rightly credited for what he did. GW has set up a load of tries down there. I certainly wouldn’t want him long up against us that’s for sure!

I think part of my frustration is that I know he’s a far better player than his current form is showing but he isn’t changing anything in his game to improve, now you could argue that this maybe down to coaching however the George Williams of 2018 is a shadow of the player that He was 18 months ago. Maybe this constant switching of players doesn’t help his cause because he never has a settled half back partner to bond with.

Re: Scrum half : Sat Apr 14, 2018 1:51 pm  

hatty wrote:

I think part of my frustration is that I know he’s a far better player than his current form is showing but he isn’t changing anything in his game to improve, now you could argue that this maybe down to coaching however the George Williams of 2018 is a shadow of the player that He was 18 months ago. Maybe this constant switching of players doesn’t help his cause because he never has a settled half back partner to bond with.

Can’t argue with any of that.

Re: Scrum half : Sat Apr 14, 2018 2:56 pm  

Bigredwarrior wrote:

Go back a few weeks and watch the tries down our left edge. Virtually every one of them starts with a burst of speed or a great pass from GW. Is he playing perfectly? No but he sure as heck doesn’t deserve some of the tosh on here at the moment!

Correct. Even though not at his best, he’s second in SL for try assists, with 11, only 1 behind the leader, Myler. Last season he was best by a mile, way ahead of Mcguire in second place. He’s also streets ahead in attacking kicks for us, double Sam in second. Now I know stats don’t show everything, but they do at least give a good indication.

Re: Scrum half : Sat Apr 14, 2018 3:04 pm  

the frustration is that he doesnt learn. a few weeks back, we were going left and he tried a pass that didnt work.
5 minutes later, same position, same pass, same result.
5 minutes after that - Sam is in the same position and tries something different - we score.
GW has lots of individual skills, but Sam is streets ahead at reading a game and bringing other players into the action.
Game sense is something which the stats dont show.