This mess : Sun Mar 24, 2019 11:44 am  

With the mess the club finds itself in with no coach for next year, key players leaving and retirements of key players, does anybody think it would be a good idea to try bring in a trusted old head such as John Monie to do a bit of work off the field? I think the club could seriously do with somebody who knows what they are doing to have a look over the squad and help identify some realistic targets from the NRL. He could also run a watchful eye over Lam for a few weeks and report back on his performance as a coach and whether or not he is up to the job of staying on next year. This would also have the added benefit of bringing some much needed feel good factor back to the club in the wake of the Edwards disaster. Its obvious to me that the club needs a guiding hand off the field right now.

Re: This mess : Sun Mar 24, 2019 12:00 pm  

John Monie?? Clutching at straws you lad

Re: This mess : Sun Mar 24, 2019 12:03 pm  

I’d bring in Alex ‘f%*king’ Murphy to do the team talks.

[Pemps]

Re: This mess : Sun Mar 24, 2019 12:06 pm  

He's over 70 years old and hasn't been involved in RL for over 10 years.
What's Maurice Bamford up to these days?

Re: This mess : Sun Mar 24, 2019 12:08 pm  

The only option I can see is to tell Lam that he's got it full-time if he can get us up the table. Not to the top (that's already gone), just out of the danger zone.

Edwards is clearly a non-starter. Even if he isn't, he should be.

But to try and bring someone else in now could be disastrous. Try doing that and telling Lammy that he still has to get the team out of trouble (so someone else can then take over). Good natured as he is, it's impossible to imagine him cooperating. Of course, he may not want the job - but if he does, he'll be newly motivated to make it count. And if that fails, then we'll have no option but to look elsewhere and Lammy won't be able to blame us.

I hear the OP's point about someone coming in as a kind of consultant - but I'm not sure that would make any difference at this stage, plus John Monie's in his 70s and has been out of the game for about 10 years.

I wouldn't worry about next year either. At present, it's all about surviving 2019.

Re: This mess : Sun Mar 24, 2019 12:13 pm  

Couldn't Billy Boston come in on a Wednesday afternoon

Re: This mess : Sun Mar 24, 2019 1:15 pm  

The_Enforcer wrote:

With the mess the club finds itself in with no coach for next year, key players leaving and retirements of key players, does anybody think it would be a good idea to try bring in a trusted old head such as John Monie to do a bit of work off the field? I think the club could seriously do with somebody who knows what they are doing to have a look over the squad and help identify some realistic targets from the NRL. He could also run a watchful eye over Lam for a few weeks and report back on his performance as a coach and whether or not he is up to the job of staying on next year. This would also have the added benefit of bringing some much needed feel good factor back to the club in the wake of the Edwards disaster. Its obvious to me that the club needs a guiding hand off the field right now.

I think the time has come for IL to have a long hard think about the structure of the club. Is it time to say thanks to KL and move him on and bring in an experienced Director of Rugby, by this I don't mean a recently retired player a la Kevin Sinfield, I mean someone with a greater knowledge of the game from a possible recent coaching standpoint. They could act as a mouthpiece between the coach and IL regarding all issues related to rugby ie in conjunction with the coach identifying new players, releasing academy players that are unlikely to make the grade instead of holding on to as many as possible to the detriment of the salary cap and the clubs overall finances. They would facilitate the actual recruitment process and contracts etc and let IL concentrate solely on the revenue, administration and budgetary aspects of the club which is what a succesful businessman should be capable of. I am pretty sure that he would make a better fist of things than he is at present if he knew the playing side of things were being looked after succesfully.
We also need a poop hot Commercial Manager to raise the profile of the club back to where it belongs and hopefully help to identify other ways of raising revenue that is slightly outside of the norm.
And last but definitely not least a top coach, whether that is for now or at the end of the season, personally I would go for now so that they can assess the current squad and academy retainees, release the ones we don't want, then identify and recruit their replacements for 2020.

Re: This mess : Sun Mar 24, 2019 1:20 pm  

Maybe we could Billy Boston could give some coaching lessons to Marshall & Burgess, after all he was the greatest winger the club has ever had.

Re: This mess : Sun Mar 24, 2019 2:57 pm  

The_Enforcer wrote:

With the mess the club finds itself in with no coach for next year, key players leaving and retirements of key players, does anybody think it would be a good idea to try bring in a trusted old head such as John Monie to do a bit of work off the field? I think the club could seriously do with somebody who knows what they are doing to have a look over the squad and help identify some realistic targets from the NRL. He could also run a watchful eye over Lam for a few weeks and report back on his performance as a coach and whether or not he is up to the job of staying on next year. This would also have the added benefit of bringing some much needed feel good factor back to the club in the wake of the Edwards disaster. Its obvious to me that the club needs a guiding hand off the field right now.

Ha, I love the fact you’re still living in the 80s/ 90s.

First Skerrett as forwards coach, then Gregory A’s backs coach and now Monie as head coach! Time to move on old friend.

Re: This mess : Sun Mar 24, 2019 3:49 pm  

But Shaun Edwards is from the 80s & 90s and IL wanted to sign him...& Shaun Wane was from ... let me see...