Re: Jowitt : Thu Aug 16, 2018 10:27 pm  

Our undoing were the handling errors on first or second tackle, I think there were 5 and each time under no pressure, which gifted Saints soft possession.
Yes there were 2, maybe 3 defensive howlers, with the last Saints try being the worst of all.
No patience in the first half and the worst aspect was not making Saints work for the win.

WE had one decent spell in the second half and that came to an end with the Pauli knock on on half way.

Really disappointed as Saints didn't have to work hard enough for their points.
We should have battered them in he forwards all night until they were done and then taken advantage.

Having said that, they took their chances well and deserved the win

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Re: Jowitt : Thu Aug 16, 2018 10:44 pm  

Makinson certainly showed why he is in the England squad.
Great try when he leaped above Jowitt and TJ to get the ball on the full.

Re: Jowitt : Thu Aug 16, 2018 10:50 pm  

I'd like to refer to the OP to this fixture last year in the Super 8's when Mr Grix didn't deal with the ball in the in goal area......

So do me a favour and give Max a break.....

Re: Jowitt : Thu Aug 16, 2018 10:51 pm  

BarnsleyGull wrote:

I'd like to refer to the OP to this fixture last year in the Super 8's when Mr Grix didn't deal with the ball in the in goal area......

So do me a favour and give Max a break.....

Quite agree.

Re: Jowitt : Thu Aug 16, 2018 10:53 pm  

I think both Jowitt and also TJ had fairly average at best games and I fully expect Jowitt to sit out a few weeks and rightly so.

The thought that TJ is an injury or 2 away from lining up against Kiwi or Australian international players in an England shirt frightens me. As good and exciting as he is going forward his decision making and positioning in defence is poor at best. Worryingly it doesn’t seem to be getting better.

Neither of these lads though I feel we’re responsible for the loss. The respective benches changed the game. The Trinity interchange doesn’t really change the game up. Like for like players come off the field and enter the field.

When the Saints rotated they brought something a little different from the lads they replaced and it took us a little off guard and the damage was done in that second 20 of the first half.

Re: Jowitt : Thu Aug 16, 2018 11:11 pm  

Jowitt didn’t have a great game but it wasn’t purely down to him that we lost, he had a few other comrades who were just as much to blame. He shouldn’t be thrown under the bus by Chester and dropped for Grix based on one game but i’d bet Good money thats exactly what happens.

Re: Jowitt : Thu Aug 16, 2018 11:29 pm  

The saints tries came off our inability to stop the offload with 3 men in the tackle and three kicks we simply did not compete for

The game management was not great either with the wrong players ending up with the ball on the last tackle on more than one occasion. Last week at Hull we built pressure with repeated sets by forcing numerous drop outs, but tonight we just didn’t seem to have the patience/execution to do the same.

Chester clearly wasn’t happy and was frustrated by the performance which is understandable in that two bad spells allowed saints to score most of their points

Re: Jowitt : Fri Aug 17, 2018 6:14 am  

jonh wrote:

I think both Jowitt and also TJ had fairly average at best games and I fully expect Jowitt to sit out a few weeks and rightly so.

The thought that TJ is an injury or 2 away from lining up against Kiwi or Australian international players in an England shirt frightens me. As good and exciting as he is going forward his decision making and positioning in defence is poor at best. Worryingly it doesn’t seem to be getting better.

Neither of these lads though I feel we’re responsible for the loss. The respective benches changed the game. The Trinity interchange doesn’t really change the game up. Like for like players come off the field and enter the field.

When the Saints rotated they brought something a little different from the lads they replaced and it took us a little off guard and the damage was done in that second 20 of the first half.

No not rightly so. Seasoned professionals are just as capable of having an off day but don't get dropped, don't see why Jowitt is any different.

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Re: Jowitt : Fri Aug 17, 2018 7:12 am  

You can't have it both ways.
When Grix made mistakes everyone called Chester out for not dropping him for wonder boy Jowitt.
Now Max has made mistakes it's unfair if Chester drops him.
He can't be immune. That won't do his development any good at all.

Both bring positives to the team. It's a difficult decision for Chester.

Re: Jowitt : Fri Aug 17, 2018 7:56 am  

Poptart .. perhaps Jowitt ( young player) should be given the chances Grix ( experienced player) has had over the last few seasons . I really don’t understand the dropping of young talented players .. how do they learn from their mistakes ? Any frailties Max or TJ or anyone else has needs Chester to coach and help them sort them out .