Re: £250.000/strictly confidential : Sat Mar 18, 2017 4:28 pm  

leedsnsouths wrote:

Try using your brain for a second here, why would we agree to release him if we were not paid a fee, there would be literally no benefit for us.

Don't give up your night job.

Re: £250.000/strictly confidential : Sat Mar 18, 2017 4:42 pm  

Him wrote:

What kind of fee would NRL club Cronulla have paid had Leeds not taken the stance they did?

Think carefully before you answer.

Probably no more than they have paid - they will have a value for the player regardless of Leeds' idiotic valuation - a bit like that for Hardaker - no one takes GH's ruminations in the matters seriously.

My understanding will be that if any money is changing hands it will be between the player and Leeds and not Cronulla and Leeds. I would suggest £50k at the very most.

Re: £250.000/strictly confidential : Sat Mar 18, 2017 7:04 pm  

William Eve wrote:

Don't give up your night job.

So no answer then...

Re: £250.000/strictly confidential : Sat Mar 18, 2017 8:33 pm  

leedsnsouths wrote:

So no answer then...

There is no answer to those whose comprehension skills are so limited, hence why you shouldn't give up your night job.

Nobody is claiming that no fee whatsoever has been paid.

The doubts arise over...

1) Who paid

and

2) How much.

Him is convinced that GH has done the sport of SL a huge favour in ensuring that an NRL club like Cronulla pay some kind of fee for Segeyaro. However, he cannot provide any supportive evidence for his latest eulogy on GH.

My opinion is that Cronulla have paid nothing for Segeyaro, just as Canterbury paid nothing for Eastwood.

My opinion is that any fee that has been paid to Leeds is by Segeyaro, and the reason I'm of that opinion is due to the following statement which was posted online a mere 83 minutes prior to the kick-off against Wakefield Trinity yesterday... In a club statement, Rhinos chief executive Gary Hetherington said: “We have agreed to terms with James Segeyaro to enable him to sign with the Cronulla Sharks".

My opinion is also that the fee will not amount to very much, but it is very important for an egotist like GH to provide an appearance that he's won and that nobody messes with him.

I appreciate this post will be completely wasted on you.

Re: Player | James Segeyaro : Sat Mar 18, 2017 8:55 pm  

Hard to disagree with anything Mr Eve puts above.

I've pointed out numerous times throughout this whole episode, the Sharks have been quite clear all along - they would not be paying a fee, but were interested if Segeyaro could get a release. They've not once moved from that stance, and their quotes even now back this up, and Leeds quotes talk about Segeyaro, not the Sharks.

The only chance Leeds had for money out of the Sharks was if Brailey didn't handle his NRL games well and they might have got desperate - but with how Brailey has started the season, they were never going to fork out a fee - don't forget that any fee counts on the cap, and incurs a 50% surcharge in addition to the NRL.

I'm positive this is a deal between Segeyaro and Leeds, I'm also positive it'll be minimal - Leeds can't afford a long drawn out court case or the negative PR that goes with it. As it is, GH has strung it out long enough to look like he's played hard ball and he's got an 'undisclosed financial settlement' so he can claim the moral victory (without the true value getting out).

Lyall Gorman 1 - 0 Gary Hetherington

Re: £250.000/strictly confidential : Sat Mar 18, 2017 10:57 pm  

William Eve wrote:

There is no answer to those whose comprehension skills are so limited, hence why you shouldn't give up your night job.

Nobody is claiming that no fee whatsoever has been paid.

The doubts arise over...

1) Who paid

and

2) How much.

Him is convinced that GH has done the sport of SL a huge favour in ensuring that an NRL club like Cronulla pay some kind of fee for Segeyaro. However, he cannot provide any supportive evidence for his latest eulogy on GH.

My opinion is that Cronulla have paid nothing for Segeyaro, just as Canterbury paid nothing for Eastwood.

My opinion is that any fee that has been paid to Leeds is by Segeyaro, and the reason I'm of that opinion is due to the following statement which was posted online a mere 83 minutes prior to the kick-off against Wakefield Trinity yesterday... In a club statement, Rhinos chief executive Gary Hetherington said: “We have agreed to terms with James Segeyaro to enable him to sign with the Cronulla Sharks".

My opinion is also that the fee will not amount to very much, but it is very important for an egotist like GH to provide an appearance that he's won and that nobody messes with him.

I appreciate this post will be completely wasted on you.

Like I said we have no reason to give up Segeyaro's registration unless we were paid a decent amount, who cares who paid it?

Re: £250.000/strictly confidential : Sat Mar 18, 2017 11:33 pm  

Sir Kevin Sinfield wrote:

GH has made the point that players will not be able to just walk out on contracts. Segeyaro has had no pre season, missed the start of the NRL season, and doesn't even have a contract with another club yet, plus he will have had no income for the last 3/4 months.

Obviously we have got nowhere near the £250,000 asking price, which is why it's been kept confidential. It sounds like it could be Segeyaro buying himself, rather than Cronulla. The true figure is probably in the region of £50,000.

Exactly this. Very well said.

William Eve wrote:

Nobody is claiming that no fee whatsoever has been paid.
The doubts arise over...
1) Who paid
and
2) How much.

Who cares who paid? See Sir Kev's post above.When did Leeds last announce how much they'd paid for or sold a player for?

Your continued obsession with all things Gary Hetherington is "duly noted" and really, really quite sad.
I'm wondering if there's a psychological term for that?

Hetheringtonitis?
Bitterness?
Trolling?

Re: £250.000/strictly confidential : Sat Mar 18, 2017 11:35 pm  

leedsnsouths wrote:

Like I said we have no reason to give up Segeyaro's registration unless we were paid a decent amount, who cares who paid it?

No one cares, but it won't stop RLFans' very own Alex Jones from going off on one.

Re: £250.000/strictly confidential : Sun Mar 19, 2017 7:57 am  

loiner81 wrote:

No one cares, but it won't stop RLFans' very own Alex Jones from going off on one.

You make a fair point but for me if Leeds are going to stand tough then they need to demonstrate that the stance has yielded the desired outcome.

Not a paltry few grand which is what a lot on here - me included - think

When you say Leeds never release transfer fees that is simply not the case we all know how much they paid Sheffield for the half back - why because the club told everyone that was less than 6 months ago - they didn't have an issue telling everyone how much they paid for Iestyn either

Re: £250.000/strictly confidential : Sun Mar 19, 2017 8:43 am  

Sal Paradise wrote: they didn't have an issue telling everyone how much they paid for Iestyn either are you sure sal? Gary Hetherington "Naturally, we are pleased with the outcome and the fact that the matter is now settled and laid to rest. "Four years is a long time and we're delighted the matter has been concluded." Hetherington, who refused to reveal the amount of compensation paid by Bradford, added: "Obviously, it's a figure we are satisfied with." Read more at: http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/s ... -1-2180526 i'm not exactly sure what the club received by way of compensation but i do believe that they were recompensed sufficiently despite gh not publicly stating the figure received gary hetheringtons statement regarding chicko's release sounds not too dis similar to his statement regarding harris imo Gary Hetherington said, “We have agreed to terms with James Segeyaro to enable him to sign with the Cronulla Sharks. “The terms of the settlement are strictly confidential but we can report that the club is satisfied with the financial settlement. http://www.therhinos.co.uk/news/leeds-r ... M5BdvmLS70

Sal Paradise wrote: they didn't have an issue telling everyone how much they paid for Iestyn either are you sure sal? Gary Hetherington "Naturally, we are pleased with the outcome and the fact that the matter is now settled and laid to rest. "Four years is a long time and we're delighted the matter has been concluded." Hetherington, who refused to reveal the amount of compensation paid by Bradford, added: "Obviously, it's a figure we are satisfied with." Read more at: http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/s ... -1-2180526 i'm not exactly sure what the club received by way of compensation but i do believe that they were recompensed sufficiently despite gh not publicly stating the figure received gary hetheringtons statement regarding chicko's release sounds not too dis similar to his statement regarding harris imo Gary Hetherington said, “We have agreed to terms with James Segeyaro to enable him to sign with the Cronulla Sharks. “The terms of the settlement are strictly confidential but we can report that the club is satisfied with the financial settlement. http://www.therhinos.co.uk/news/leeds-r ... M5BdvmLS70