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Re: RIP Hugo Chavez : Mon Mar 11, 2013 11:06 am  
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Factually incorrect.


But can you lend me a few quid please Minty? :SHIFTY:
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Re: RIP Hugo Chavez : Mon Mar 11, 2013 11:06 am  
Mintball wrote:
Factually incorrect.


come on then, there may be those that calim to believe in it, whilst living a capitalist life.....

POE, again
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Re: RIP Hugo Chavez : Mon Mar 11, 2013 11:08 am  
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come on then, there may be those that calim to believe in it, whilst living a capitalist life.....

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Point one: Fred Engels (just for starters – but hence, factually incorrect).

Point two: it's difficult to 'live a communist life' in a capitalist society.
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Re: RIP Hugo Chavez : Mon Mar 11, 2013 11:20 am  
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come on then, there may be those that calim to believe in it, whilst living a capitalist life.....

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Karl Marx wasn't poor. Nor Engels. Nor any number of others.
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Re: RIP Hugo Chavez : Mon Mar 11, 2013 11:25 am  
Not meant as an attack, Standee, but is can seem that your attitude toward 'the poor' (for want of a better phrase) is comparable to that Victorian attitude, although don't worry – I have no concern that you believe that poverty is an outcome of a sinful life. :wink:

But why would you be so condemnatory of attempts to decrease inequality? And we know, for instance, that moves toward increasingly laissez faire capitalism (deregulation etc) don't do that – 'trickle down' never has worked and doesn't now.

So unless you genuinely believe that the poor should just be poor – regardless of whether that allows them to live a basically decent life or not – what would you do?

And if you don't believe in doing anything, then how do you think that impacts on society as a whole?
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Re: RIP Hugo Chavez : Mon Mar 11, 2013 11:25 am  
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Karl Marx wasn't poor. Nor Engels. Nor any number of others.


Charlie's incomes varied massively. He was certainly reliant on a lot of other people – not least Engels – to support him financially.
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