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Re: Brexit Anyone ? (part 3) : Wed Dec 19, 2018 9:22 pm  

Dally wrote:

Lucid.

Justice Secretary David Gauke used very similar language today.

I don’t know whether to be proud or ashamed.

Re: Brexit Anyone ? (part 3) : Wed Dec 19, 2018 10:07 pm  

Cronus wrote:

So the most interesting thing Corbyn has said since last Christmas is to call the PM a 'stupid woman' in Parliament.

And then lie about it to the House. Aren't there serious repercussions for that?

Followed by a load of excuses from that biased clown Bercow.

Hilarious to watch triggered Corbynites forgetting there's a 'p' at the start of the word 'people'. Apparently he can say that without his lips touching. He'd make a great ventriloquist.

He should use those talents to make Dianne Abbott say something intelligent.

I missed your outrage at Hammond. Hague. Cameron...

Re: Brexit Anyone ? (part 3) : Wed Dec 19, 2018 10:28 pm  

Sheldon wrote:

I missed your outrage at Hammond. Hague. Cameron...

I'm not sure how you read outrage in my post, I think it's hilarious.

Re: Brexit Anyone ? (part 3) : Wed Dec 19, 2018 10:29 pm  

wrencat1873 wrote:

Again, we should always be happy to fight for a better future and not roll over too easily.

People should be happy to fight for a better future...but only if what they think is a better future matches your opinion.

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Re: Brexit Anyone ? (part 3) : Thu Dec 20, 2018 9:01 am  

Cronus wrote:

So the most interesting thing Corbyn has said since last Christmas is to call the PM a 'stupid woman' in Parliament.

And then lie about it to the House. Aren't there serious repercussions for that?

Only if you get caught. The desperate outrage on the Tory benches was comical.

That said, while it wouldn’t be too far along the misogyny spectrum, it would be on it. There’s gender neutral alternative noun available in ‘idiot’, too. But there are linguistic gaps. If I thought recklessness was a characteristic of a woman, the sentence has to restructured because I can’t think of a good noun. ‘Reckless person’ doesn’t really work as an exclamation. Whereas a racist element typically requires an extra word, gender has been baked into our language. I read an article about a gender neutral person the other day and the writer had used ‘they’ instead of ‘he’ or ‘she’, which sort of worked until it followed a sentence about them and their family, and it wasn’t clear if the next sentence referred to the individual or the group.

Re: Brexit Anyone ? (part 3) : Thu Dec 20, 2018 9:34 am  

Mild Rover wrote:

The desperate outrage on the Tory benches was comical.

The last time I saw someone behave like James Cleverly did was at middle school circa 1989. "I saw it sir, I saw him say it".

Re: Brexit Anyone ? (part 3) : Thu Dec 20, 2018 1:41 pm  

ThePrinter wrote:

People should be happy to fight for a better future...but only if what they think is a better future matches your opinion.

My vision of the future seems relatively easy to predics, Brxit still has a HUGE element of crossed fingers and ideological hope.
Remember, the trade deal still hasn't been started upon yet and given our "quality" negotiating that we've whitnessed so far, do you think our future looks brighter and do you expect to be better or worse off as a result of leave.

Our government cant agree a way forward among the cabinet, nevwr mind havinANY vision for a brighter future.

Turkeys voting for Christmas is what I thought at the time and as the festive period gathers momentum, there has been NOTHING to change my mind.

Even the main issue of immigration has been a smaoke screen for increasing immigration from outside the EU, ironic or what

Re: Brexit Anyone ? (part 3) : Thu Dec 20, 2018 10:11 pm  

Mild Rover wrote:

The desperate outrage on the Tory benches was comical.

Do you honestly think the reaction would have been any different if it had been a Tory minister? Get real.

In fact, it's very interesting watching left-wingers playing the whole thing down...all the while knowing full well if (for example) Philip Hammond had been seen saying the same thing the anti-Tory frenzy would be on another scale and he'd have been forced to resign by now.

You know, and I know it.

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Re: Brexit Anyone ? (part 3) : Fri Dec 21, 2018 8:40 am  

Cronus wrote:

Do you honestly think the reaction would have been any different if it had been a Tory minister? Get real.

In fact, it's very interesting watching left-wingers playing the whole thing down...all the while knowing full well if (for example) Philip Hammond had been seen saying the same thing the anti-Tory frenzy would be on another scale and he'd have been forced to resign by now.

You know, and I know it.

No, my bias is in the opposite direction.

If anything, I think the Tories are more likely to get a pass because nobody expects better of them.

While anti-semitism in the Labour Party feels shocking to me, charges of islamophobia against in the Conservative party... well, what else would we expect?

Also, there’s no definitive evidence and if you don’t think a Tory could brazen this out, then I don’t think you have been watching properly.

Re: Brexit Anyone ? (part 3) : Fri Dec 21, 2018 9:35 am  

Bless the ickle snowflake right wingers getting outraged. What Corbyn did was wrong. What he should have done was walk across the floor & snotted the stupid cow. An outraged party & woman who only a few days ago gave the whip back to 2 MPs who had sent thousands of explicit sexual messages. A woman whose actions are destroying the country, its health, education & social services, killing hundreds of homeless, putting record numbers on the streets, yet thinks it is acceptable to behave like the privileged upper class ponce in a high school drama lesson, cheered on by her parasitic fags, in the supposed home of intellectual debate.