Re: MANDELA DEAD : Fri Dec 06, 2013 9:26 am  

CORNISH wrote:

Is Kay Burley there yet!!

One would hope Dewani has a taxi waiting for her at the airport.

Re: MANDELA DEAD : Fri Dec 06, 2013 9:47 am  

John_D wrote:

Well quite. I mean, when Cameron was in the Young Conservatives, they produced a poster advocating his execution. And now, Cameron doesn't support the reintroduction of capital punishment. So... y'know...

Not a great morning for our dear leader

Re: MANDELA DEAD : Fri Dec 06, 2013 10:03 am  

cod'ead wrote:

It's entertaining watching @LouiseMensch trying to spin her way out of bother on twitter

What has she said ? Must be something not very nice.

Re: MANDELA DEAD : Fri Dec 06, 2013 10:04 am  

John_D wrote:

Well quite. I mean, when Cameron was in the Young Conservatives, they produced a poster advocating his execution. And now, Cameron doesn't support the reintroduction of capital punishment. So... y'know...

The two-faced piece of .... but it really is no surprise.

Re: MANDELA DEAD : Fri Dec 06, 2013 10:09 am  

Politicians will always get bitten on their arrses by their statements until the day they learn to say "sorry I was wrong and now I've changed my mind" realising that such an admission is not a sign of weakness, like the rest of us do as further analysis of anything brings different realisations later on.

I won't hold my breath for politicians to understand this though.

Re: MANDELA DEAD : Fri Dec 06, 2013 10:47 am  

cod'ead wrote:

It's entertaining watching @LouiseMensch trying to spin her way out of bother on twitter

Shouldn't she be on "menschn" instead?

Re: MANDELA DEAD : Fri Dec 06, 2013 12:06 pm  

Chris28 wrote:

Shouldn't she be on "menschn" instead?

There ain't not no menschn no longer

Re: MANDELA DEAD : Fri Dec 06, 2013 1:08 pm  

John_D wrote: Well quite. I mean, when Cameron was in the Young Conservatives, they produced a poster advocating his execution. And now, Cameron doesn't support the reintroduction of capital punishment. So... y'know... In the interests of accuracy, Cameron himself was not involved in the poster. He did, however, go on an all-expenses paid junket to apartheid South Africa to 'see for himself'. It was funded by a firm that lobbied on behalf of the apartheid state. Story And as has already been said, people can change their minds.

John_D wrote: Well quite. I mean, when Cameron was in the Young Conservatives, they produced a poster advocating his execution. And now, Cameron doesn't support the reintroduction of capital punishment. So... y'know... In the interests of accuracy, Cameron himself was not involved in the poster. He did, however, go on an all-expenses paid junket to apartheid South Africa to 'see for himself'. It was funded by a firm that lobbied on behalf of the apartheid state. Story And as has already been said, people can change their minds.

Re: MANDELA DEAD : Fri Dec 06, 2013 1:17 pm  

Mandela wasn't great he was human.
It's all about the individual.
If I'd have been born on the Falls Road, Belfast, I'd have been killing British soldiers.
If I'd have been born in Fallujah, I'd have beeen killing American soldiers.
If anybody comes into the town I live with intent to harm people I love and know, I'll be killing them.

To me, t's simple arithmetic.

Re: MANDELA DEAD : Fri Dec 06, 2013 1:34 pm  

WIZEB wrote:

Mandela wasn't great he was human.
It's all about the individual.
If I'd have been born on the Falls Road, Belfast, I'd have been killing British soldiers.
If I'd have been born in Fallujah, I'd have beeen killing American soldiers.
If anybody comes into the town I live with intent to harm people I love and know, I'll be killing them.

To me, t's simple arithmetic.

The greatness comes in subsequently deciding not to seek retribution once in power, but reconciliation. Many don't or would not.