Re: Scargill was right! : Sun Jan 05, 2014 11:27 am  

Dally wrote:

Alhough I supported the miners at the time, with the benefit of hindsight it was essential for democracy that union power was controlled / crushed. The miners were traditionally the strongest union and looked up to by other unions and that's why the government fought hard and dirty. It was for want of a better expression 'class war' (or more accurately a war for democracy) and as such tactics needed to be brutal.

But they were not!

Closed shops still exist to this day.
Lobbying and "buying" of politicians is still rife.
Leaders of Unions still have influence on government policy.
Only the people who keep the establishment in power by being the buffer are not legally allowed to strike.

When governments can be brought to their collective knees by unelected, unaccountable people in global businesses then democracy has been shown up

Re: Scargill was right! : Sun Jan 05, 2014 1:00 pm  

Leaguefan wrote:

But they were not!

Closed shops still exist to this day.
Lobbying and "buying" of politicians is still rife.
Leaders of Unions still have influence on government policy.
Only the people who keep the establishment in power by being the buffer are not legally allowed to strike.

When governments can be brought to their collective knees by unelected, unaccountable people in global businesses then democracy has been shown up

I think Grangemouth demonstrated exactly who holds the whip hand here - outside of the public sector it isn't the unions.

Re: Scargill was right! : Sun Jan 05, 2014 4:25 pm  

Im just wondering when the greedy b'stard Bob Crowe will get his backside handed to him.

Re: Scargill was right! : Sun Jan 05, 2014 5:38 pm  

Wire Yed wrote:

Im just wondering when the greedy b'stard Bob Crowe will get his backside handed to him.

Just out of curiosity.

Why?

Re: Scargill was right! : Sun Jan 05, 2014 5:48 pm  

Do you live in London?

Re: Scargill was right! : Sun Jan 05, 2014 6:58 pm  

David Jones and Joe Green.

We still remember.

Re: Scargill was right! : Sun Jan 05, 2014 9:40 pm  

WIZEB wrote:

David Jones and Joe Green.

We still remember.

what about David Wilkie then?
Is he still remembered by that scum Scargill!!!

Re: Scargill was right! : Sun Jan 05, 2014 10:49 pm  

Wire Yed wrote:

Do you live in London?

Do you usually answer questions with totally meaningless and superfluous questions instead of actually answering the question?

Re: Scargill was right! : Mon Jan 06, 2014 12:55 am  

Well if he lived in London and possibly relied on public transport I thought it would be obvious as to why Bob Crowe isn't popular.

Re: Scargill was right! : Mon Jan 06, 2014 8:04 am  

Is he related to Bob Crow?