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Re: The big immigration row : Wed Feb 19, 2014 7:04 pm  
Does anyone want to actually discuss immigration or just the poor quality of the program itself?
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The Rugby Football League are in the process of reviewing the video that you are referring to. We do not condone behaviour of this nature and have contacted the player’s employer, Hull F.C., who have confirmed that they are dealing with the incident under their club rules.
 
 
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Re: The big immigration row : Wed Feb 19, 2014 7:29 pm  
If ukip get in power and kick all the immigrants out would they have to take all the expats back?
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Re: The big immigration row : Wed Feb 19, 2014 8:23 pm  
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Does anyone want to actually discuss immigration or just the poor quality of the program itself?

It would appear not
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Re: The big immigration row : Wed Feb 19, 2014 8:32 pm  
Too dodgy to discuss without risking being labelled, so most folk don't bother.
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Re: The big immigration row : Wed Feb 19, 2014 8:34 pm  
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If ukip get in power and kick all the immigrants out would they have to take all the expats back?


Not aware UKIP want to do that. But we need immigrants, we just need to get more control over the situation.
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Re: The big immigration row : Wed Feb 19, 2014 8:36 pm  
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Does anyone want to actually discuss immigration or just the poor quality of the program itself?


What would you like to discuss, the rumours, untruths, newspaper gossip and lies, outright lies over immigration, or the reality ?

Personally and from the experience that I see in the workplace I think its a good thing, how about you ?
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Re: The big immigration row : Wed Feb 19, 2014 8:38 pm  
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To dodgy to discuss without risking being labelled, so most folk don't bother.


Yeah, and that's something that really frustrates me. I hate these people that, seemingly unless you want as many people piling into the country as possible, they label you xenophobic or racist.
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Re: The big immigration row : Wed Feb 19, 2014 8:39 pm  
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What would you like to discuss, the rumours, untruths, newspaper gossip and lies, outright lies over immigration, or the reality ?

Personally and from the experience that I see in the workplace I think its a good thing, how about you ?


The reality would be good.
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Re: The big immigration row : Wed Feb 19, 2014 8:53 pm  
The reality that I see (and I deal with payroll and HR) is that many businesses would struggle really hard to exist were it not for the agencies who provide European labour on short term no-commitment contracts.

Thats not to say that the employee does not have a commitment from the agency, they do most of the time, but it also often suits that labour to be flexible about the hours they work and to be able to move on at any time.

The workplace has changed dramatically over the past ten years - I recall a large plant grower towards the east of this country taking on Eastern European labour ten/twelve years ago from an agency that we did business with, that agency in turn relied on gang masters from various former soviet bloc countries who literally were like the Mafia, most of the labour they supplied were non-English speaking, record keeping was rudimentary, cash was king and eventually they didn't need us to record anything about the sites at all - that agency eventually walked away from those contracts because what was going on was blatently illegal.

It isn't like that now (thankfully).

The problem is that most stories in the written media feature very minority cases of fraud and corruption (like it used to be) and then portray that as the norm, when the truth is that eastern european labour is not cheap for the employer, but it is very flexible, which is a major requirement - when did you ever see or hear of that being emphasised in a documentary ?

An example of poor quality written media reporting - check how many immigrants there have been from Romania and Bulgaria since Jan 1st, or how many additional flights and buses have been arriving here - then look back at what was being speculated and lied about in the newspapers back in December and wonder why they haven't bothered with the story since.
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The Reason wrote:
Hi Andy

The Rugby Football League are in the process of reviewing the video that you are referring to. We do not condone behaviour of this nature and have contacted the player’s employer, Hull F.C., who have confirmed that they are dealing with the incident under their club rules.
 
 
Regards,
 
Matthew

Re: The big immigration row : Wed Feb 19, 2014 9:26 pm  
FlexWheeler wrote:
Not aware UKIP want to do that. But we need immigrants, we just need to get more control over the situation.


Would other countries want to get control over there's and send the expats back?
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