Re: Brexit Anyone ? (part 3) : Thu Mar 14, 2019 11:38 am  

The Devil's Advocate wrote:

If it's true that the majority of M.P.'s are remainers I just don't understand why they don't band together & just kick this catastrophe out of the ball park, for the sake of the country.

I'm sure that many of them wish as hard as they can for a time machine, so they can go back and prevent the imbecile Cameron from holding the referendum in the first place; it was one the most inept political decisions in history.

The Tory habit of putting party before country has really f**ked us this time - they landed us in this mess in an attempt to oust UKIP, then fought a flaccid and ineffectual campaign to remain, and now we have a zombie PM fronting a chaotic government, desperately trying to force through a steaming turd of legislation that only disaster capitalists and offshore trust fund millionaires will benefit from; and whilst a majority of MP's *want* to remain, they're too scared of the backlash to do anything meaningful about it.

What would happen if all the Remain MP's band together and say "actually no - you made a choice, but it was an unwise choice, so we're not doing it. Now do your worst?"

Re: Brexit Anyone ? (part 3) : Thu Mar 14, 2019 11:42 am  

bren2k wrote:

I'm sure that many of them wish as hard as they can for a time machine, so they can go back and prevent the imbecile Cameron from holding the referendum in the first place; it was one the most inept political decisions in history.

The Tory habit of putting party before country has really f**ked us this time - they landed us in this mess in an attempt to oust UKIP, then fought a flaccid and ineffectual campaign to remain, and now we have a zombie PM fronting a chaotic government, desperately trying to force through a steaming turd of legislation that only disaster capitalists and offshore trust fund millionaires will benefit from; and whilst a majority of MP's *want* to remain, they're too scared of the backlash to do anything meaningful about it.

What would happen if all the Remain MP's band together and say "actually no - you made a choice, but it was an unwise choice, so we're not doing it. Now do your worst?"

they would all get voted out and we'd end up with the disaster of Corbyn in number ten.

[Bullseye]

Re: Brexit Anyone ? (part 3) : Thu Mar 14, 2019 12:01 pm  

They need to pull their fingers out. Most voted to invoke A50 so they've made their bed. I'd have more respect for them if they came up with a genuine cross party plan and got it through rather than wondering if they'd remain MPs afterwards. Politics is what is holding things back, nothing else.

I've a feeling it'll end up being May's deal or No deal since MPs seem unable to think for themselves or have the backbone in enough numbers to form a consensus that will fly. Useless fecktards.

Re: Brexit Anyone ? (part 3) : Thu Mar 14, 2019 12:11 pm  

Bullseye wrote:

They need to pull their fingers out. Most voted to invoke A50 so they've made their bed. I'd have more respect for them if they came up with a genuine cross party plan and got it through rather than wondering if they'd remain MPs afterwards. Politics is what is holding things back, nothing else.

I've a feeling it'll end up being May's deal or No deal since MPs seem unable to think for themselves or have the backbone in enough numbers to form a consensus that will fly. Useless fecktards.

Agree 100%
Junker has basically said if we ask for an extentension it will be years, not months. GE here we come!

Re: Brexit Anyone ? (part 3) : Thu Mar 14, 2019 12:13 pm  

bren2k wrote:

What would happen if all the Remain MP's band together and say "actually no - you made a choice, but it was an unwise choice, so we're not doing it. Now do your worst?"

They would be threatened with rape & being hung drawn & quartered, even more than they are right now!

Re: Brexit Anyone ? (part 3) : Thu Mar 14, 2019 12:29 pm  

Bullseye wrote:

They need to pull their fingers out. Most voted to invoke A50 so they've made their bed. I'd have more respect for them if they came up with a genuine cross party plan and got it through rather than wondering if they'd remain MPs afterwards. Politics is what is holding things back, nothing else.

I've a feeling it'll end up being May's deal or No deal since MPs seem unable to think for themselves or have the backbone in enough numbers to form a consensus that will fly. Useless fecktards.

Totally agree mate

Re: Brexit Anyone ? (part 3) : Thu Mar 14, 2019 12:33 pm  

MGarbutt1986 wrote:

The problem is even some constituency MP's don' t vote as their constituents wish.

I thought you voted for your MP based on his/her policies & principles, & those of his/her party.

Re: Brexit Anyone ? (part 3) : Thu Mar 14, 2019 12:40 pm  

tigertot wrote:

I thought you voted for your MP based on his/her policies & principles, & those of his/her party.

You do, then they do as they pleaseix n a lot of cases.

(apologies, it wasn't junker, it was Tusk)

Re: Brexit Anyone ? (part 3) : Thu Mar 14, 2019 12:42 pm  

Bullseye wrote:

They need to pull their fingers out. Most voted to invoke A50 so they've made their bed. I'd have more respect for them if they came up with a genuine cross party plan and got it through rather than wondering if they'd remain MPs afterwards. Politics is what is holding things back, nothing else.

I've a feeling it'll end up being May's deal or No deal since MPs seem unable to think for themselves or have the backbone in enough numbers to form a consensus that will fly. Useless fecktards.

You are quite correct in this posting. It’s a complete mystery that the majority of parliament voted to invoke article 50 and now most of the same people are trying every trick in the book to frustrate the will of the people.
If they didn’t want to leave the EU why did they vote to invoke article 50. I don’t think the members of all the main parties realise the utter contempt that the British public have for them ,as we witness this pantomime. Unfortunately all this is being viewed around the world . Not forgetting business leaders need to know the outcome especially for long term planning.

Re: Brexit Anyone ? (part 3) : Thu Mar 14, 2019 12:59 pm  

Maybe Treeza is secretly sticking to her Remainer principles, and bolloxing it up on purpose, so that eventually, she can say "there's no consensus, time has run out, we have no choice but to cancel the whole thing." Then she can go run through a field of wheat, or walk up a mountain, or whatever she does for kicks, safe in the knowledge that although she's secured her position as the worst PM ever, she at least saved us from the economic suicide that is Brexit?