Re: Unite and Grangemouth : Wed Oct 30, 2013 7:28 pm  

Sal Paradise wrote:

... I suspect there isn't a person on here who could give a succinct definitive definition of Socialism - and that includes you and Mintball.

Hang on – you've just essentially stated that your own earlier post was pointless, then!

If there's no singular definition, then why try to make one?

And I'm still waiting for your answer.

What are the pay rates for a "supposed socialist"?

Re: Unite and Grangemouth : Wed Oct 30, 2013 11:03 pm  

Thread cleaned, I suggest everyone takes a deep breath, answers the questions each still has open and does so civilly.

The moderators of this forum couldn't give a flying one about which side of the debate you are on, cool it.

Re: Unite and Grangemouth : Wed Oct 30, 2013 11:29 pm  

Mintball wrote:

Hang on – you've just essentially stated that your own earlier post was pointless, then!

If there's no singular definition, then why try to make one?

And I'm still waiting for your answer.

What are the pay rates for a "supposed socialist"?

You won't get an answer. He just makes things up.

Re: Unite and Grangemouth : Thu Oct 31, 2013 8:44 am  

El Barbudo wrote:

Why the fascination with people's appearance?

I'm not keen on Shoesmith either but I decided that all by myself without the assistance of a low-fact rant from Julie Bindel.
In that article there is absolutely no analysis of Shoesmith's job or what she did or did not do.
In short, a total sharticle(*)

Also, apart from some fragile and tenuous "incompetence" connection, it has feckall to do with the Grangemouth dispute.



(*) © Southstander.com

That's easily answered Gary. I enjoy people watching. Have you never sat outside in Leeds Centre and watched the World drift by.....observed the facial expressions and listened to the tones of their voices....seen the sometimes surprising gentleness contrast with the outwardly ugly visage.... the occasional act of civility?

Try it. Now perhaps you could offer up an explanation why you feel the bizzare need to log in and comment, not under your own original Log In name, but for example in this thread alone, we have had Jerry Chicken and El Barbundo. I can understand Danny doing it, that is simply Danny being Danny (HIM), but a respectable middle of the road chappy from Horsforth?

You would make an excellent candidate for observation.

Re: Unite and Grangemouth : Thu Oct 31, 2013 9:08 am  

rumpelstiltskin wrote:

That's easily answered Gary. I enjoy people watching. Have you never sat outside in Leeds Centre and watched the World drift by.....observed the facial expressions and listened to the tones of their voices....seen the sometimes surprising gentleness contrast with the outwardly ugly visage.... the occasional act of civility?

Try it. Now perhaps you could offer up an explanation why you feel the bizzare need to log in and comment, not under your own original Log In name, but for example in this thread alone, we have had Jerry Chicken and El Barbundo. I can understand Danny doing it, that is simply Danny being Danny (HIM), but a respectable middle of the road chappy from Horsforth?

You would make an excellent candidate for observation.

But were would he rate in your attractiveness scale?

Re: Unite and Grangemouth : Thu Oct 31, 2013 9:17 am  

No response from Sal. Strange as he's active on SouthStander, maybe he's forgotten. Although he's been caught out lying on there too so he's probably distracted trying to hide it.

Re: Unite and Grangemouth : Thu Oct 31, 2013 9:38 am  

Ajw71 wrote:

This post added something did it Mintball?

Strange how you didn't pick this one out as 'not adding anything too'.

Hello Marie.
Had any coherent thoughts lately?

Re: Unite and Grangemouth : Thu Oct 31, 2013 9:39 am  

Yet another example of how out of touch certain sections within this Union are in Scotland. Does anyone think that this a valid Tactic in any Industrial dispute? I remember Court cases arising from similar acts of intimidation and assaults here in pit villages in Yorkshire during the Miners Strike, but seriously, 30 odd years later, there are actually people within the Union movement who still chose to follow this path?

Yet another example of how out of touch certain sections within this Union are in Scotland. Does anyone think that this a valid Tactic in any Industrial dispute? I remember Court cases arising from similar acts of intimidation and assaults here in pit villages in Yorkshire during the Miners Strike, but seriously, 30 odd years later, there are actually people within the Union movement who still chose to follow this path?

Re: Unite and Grangemouth : Thu Oct 31, 2013 9:46 am  

rumpelstiltskin wrote:

That's easily answered Gary....<snip> ...You would make an excellent candidate for observation.

Well, my name's not Gary for a start, so you've got ground to make up there.
Neither do I use the name Jerry Chicken ... mind you, I do know who does, and good company he is too although I haven't seen him in a couple of years.
I also know who Sal Paradise and Cod'ead are ... and they too are perfectly nice people to meet.

There's a gulf between idle people-watching (a pastime in which I've been known to indulge) and having specific candidates for observation (which, if I may say so, sounds a little strange).

Oh, and my original login name is El Barbudo.
I did have a brief period a few years back where I changed it to Peaseblossom, for no particular reason, but then changed it back which is why (if you look left at my avatar) you can see I show up as having registered 11 years ago.

I am not from Horsforth either ... and I take exception at being described as "respectable".

Re: Unite and Grangemouth : Thu Oct 31, 2013 9:51 am  

I don't particularly have a problem with the leafleting (though I suppose it depends what's in the leaflet) but protesting outside someone's house is too far in my opinion. And it's sad that some people in Unions go so far because it's a movement that I support in principle.