Re: Brexit Anyone ? (part 3) : Sat Mar 23, 2019 2:13 pm  

Johnson omg no, couldn't do Home Secretary
Gove (watch your back worse than Johnson
Hunt was rubbish for the NHS

For me would like either Raab or Javid

Re: Brexit Anyone ? (part 3) : Sat Mar 23, 2019 2:17 pm  

Lisa Nandy for Labour leader. Just thought I would throw that in

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Re: Brexit Anyone ? (part 3) : Sat Mar 23, 2019 3:01 pm  

POSTL wrote:

Johnson omg no, couldn't do Home Secretary
Gove (watch your back worse than Johnson
Hunt was rubbish for the NHS

For me would like either Raab or Javid

If I were forced to choose and did so in good faith, i’d put Gove, Hunt and Javid way ahead of Johnson (scattergun narcissist) and Raab (thicko ideologue).

Of the first three, gosh this is uncomfortable... Gove, maybe. Not much in it.

Thornberry is the favourite to replace Corbyn, which’d seem a safe, sensible option to me.

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Re: Brexit Anyone ? (part 3) : Sat Mar 23, 2019 3:02 pm  

Backwoodsman wrote:

Damn and blast, was looking forward to a nice day working on my veg plot and walking the dog. However have just received an emergency call from my pals on the People’s vote march in London. Apparently they are struggling to obtain enough hummus, falafel and Vegan food to last the day. Don’t worry lads and lassies I am on my way. Up the workers.

You can try all you want to make out that the hundreds of thousands of people marching today are all humus eating lefties but we know this isn't true. My mum went down on one of the Leeds for Europe coaches today. She's a working class woman from east end park and she's not a Labour voter.

The dawning realisation of this brexit disaster is extending across all classes and political affiliations.

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Re: Brexit Anyone ? (part 3) : Sat Mar 23, 2019 3:10 pm  

Mild Rover wrote:

Thornberry is the favourite to replace Corbyn, which’d seem a safe, sensible option to me.

Maybe not a popular choice in Rochester, mind you.

Re: Brexit Anyone ? (part 3) : Sat Mar 23, 2019 3:25 pm  

Mild Rover wrote:

If I were forced to choose and did so in good faith, i’d put Gove, Hunt and Javid way ahead of Johnson (scattergun narcissist) and Raab (thicko ideologue).

Of the first three, gosh this is uncomfortable... Gove, maybe. Not much in it.

Thornberry is the favourite to replace Corbyn, which’d seem a safe, sensible option to me.

I'm just glad that you're not selecting leaders of either party.

Gove is the next worst option to Johnson and Thornbury ?? I'd rather have Corbyn and he's awful.
Unfortunately, the move to the left under Corbyn, has cost Labour most of the decent alternatives, they've either left, retired or jumped ship.
I actually turn the TV off when Thornbury starts speaking.

Politicians have no personality of strong beliefs these days, it's all about repeating sound bites, regardless of the question that may have been put to them.

My politics ddint agree with Skinner and Wedgewood Benn but, at least they would answer a question and have a genuine opinion. Very few, of either party, do that any more

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Re: Brexit Anyone ? (part 3) : Sat Mar 23, 2019 4:09 pm  

wrencat1873 wrote:

I'm just glad that you're not selecting leaders of either party.

Gove is the next worst option to Johnson and Thornbury ?? I'd rather have Corbyn and he's awful.
Unfortunately, the move to the left under Corbyn, has cost Labour most of the decent alternatives, they've either left, retired or jumped ship.
I actually turn the TV off when Thornbury starts speaking.

Politicians have no personality of strong beliefs these days, it's all about repeating sound bites, regardless of the question that may have been put to them.

My politics ddint agree with Skinner and Wedgewood Benn but, at least they would answer a question and have a genuine opinion. Very few, of either party, do that any more

It’s very easy to say what you don’t want, as we’ve seen with Brexit. Who’d be your choices from the likely candidates?

As for the good old days of politics versus now, politicians evolve to the electoral environment they find themselves in, and that is largely created by the voters. It’s maybe cyclical, and that’s why we’re getting throwbacks like John ‘Churchill and Tonypandy’ McDonnell, and JRM, the honourable member for the 18th Century. A bit of panto is fun, after years of smooth evasiveness, so long as it doesn’t descend too far into a chaotic inferno of hate. Too late? Oops.

Re: Brexit Anyone ? (part 3) : Sat Mar 23, 2019 6:05 pm  

Mild Rover wrote:

It’s very easy to say what you don’t want, as we’ve seen with Brexit. Who’d be your choices from the likely candidates?

As for the good old days of politics versus now, politicians evolve to the electoral environment they find themselves in, and that is largely created by the voters. It’s maybe cyclical, and that’s why we’re getting throwbacks like John ‘Churchill and Tonypandy’ McDonnell, and JRM, the honourable member for the 18th Century. A bit of panto is fun, after years of smooth evasiveness, so long as it doesn’t descend too far into a chaotic inferno of hate. Too late? Oops.

I suggested Raab and Rudd as maybe's

As for Labour, the best 2 candidates that they've had post Blair, have been Milliband (David) but, they chose Ed ?? and Chucka Amunna but he didn't want to stay Keir Starmer, were he to stand, has the look of a leader or Shami Chakrabati, most of the rest have been nothing more than Corbyn wind bags and struggle to do anything other than relentlessly trot out pre prepared phrases, even when they are not in line with any questions being asked or relevant to the topic of the day and Thornbury is one of the worst offenders.

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Re: Brexit Anyone ? (part 3) : Sat Mar 23, 2019 7:28 pm  

wrencat1873 wrote:

I suggested Raab and Rudd as maybe's

As for Labour, the best 2 candidates that they've had post Blair, have been Milliband (David) but, they chose Ed ?? and Chucka Amunna but he didn't want to stay Keir Starmer, were he to stand, has the look of a leader or Shami Chakrabati, most of the rest have been nothing more than Corbyn wind bags and struggle to do anything other than relentlessly trot out pre prepared phrases, even when they are not in line with any questions being asked or relevant to the topic of the day and Thornbury is one of the worst offenders.

Okay, I’ll back-off on Thornbury. I did say ‘safe’ rather than ‘inspiring’, but fair enough.

I know it’s a bit like choosing between cat poo and dog poo, but I’d still take Gove ahead of Raab, everyday of the week.

Re: Brexit Anyone ? (part 3) : Sat Mar 23, 2019 9:13 pm  

Mild Rover wrote:

Okay, I’ll back-off on Thornbury. I did say ‘safe’ rather than ‘inspiring’, but fair enough.

I know it’s a bit like choosing between cat poo and dog poo, but I’d still take Gove ahead of Raab, everyday of the week.

I'm not going to back off from Nandy, what ever happens re Brexit I think she has really shown admirably even though she is a retainer and Labour I would vote for her if she was my local MP.

How can you say you would take Gove over anyone mate, he makes my skin crawl. Raab for me