SaintsFan wrote:
I haven't defended anything. I simply know a lot about the church (in particular the Church of England) and know something of the other monotheistic religions also. I also happen to agree that by granting gay people marriage, it is changing the meaning of marriage in this country as has been understood and legally recognised for centuries. And I'm not backing that assertion up with evidence again as I have already presented evidence to back that up.
Your 'evidence', as has been pointed out to you by several posters, is bollox.
SaintsFan wrote:
didn't say that at all. I said there were two interpretations of 'the word of God': the Bible as an inspired text and Jesus. That is what I said before, that is what I have said now.
Beautiful. In what way does that contradict what I said?
It's about context, you halfwit. When you were trying to make out like the Old Testament was somehow irrelevant to the discussion, I asked 'is the Bible the word of God'? Now, it's patently obvious to all but a halfwit what that question means, wouldn't you say? I wasn't asking whether Jesus was also known as 'The Word', but how the Old Testament could be so easily dismissed to suit the religious argument if it is indeed believed to be (as Pope Francis points out) 'the speech of God as it is put down in writing'.
SaintsFan wrote:
It does if it is that version of the ceremony that is being changed, which it is.
Wrong. Again. That 'version' of the ceremony won't be changed one bit. Churches will still perform their traditional marriage ceremonies for opposite sex couples and no religious institution will be compelled to perform a same sex marriage if they choose not to. It won't affect God-botherers one bit, except for the fact that they won't be able to oppress others based on their book of demonstrable nonsense. All the new legislation will change is that gay people will be allowed to say they are 'married' and that they will be allowed to have religious readings/music at the ceremony if they so choose. The CoE and the Catholic Church do not have the monopoly of Sky Fairy worshipping, and if people wish to praise their God at a same sex wedding ceremony it's fook all to do with the Christian Churches.
SaintsFan wrote:
Upon what do you think the civil marriage was based?
Upon what do you think Christian weddings were based?
