Re: Brexit Anyone ? (part 3) : Tue Apr 02, 2019 1:45 pm  

post wrote:

So they’re making it so difficult that we have no option but stay.

In what ways? In what ways are they screwing us so hard?

Re: Brexit Anyone ? (part 3) : Tue Apr 02, 2019 2:01 pm  

It really is time some people just poated on The Socialost Worker and spread their delusion on there.

Re: Brexit Anyone ? (part 3) : Tue Apr 02, 2019 2:21 pm  

MGarbutt1986 wrote:

The Socialost Worker

Accidentally brilliant.

Re: Brexit Anyone ? (part 3) : Tue Apr 02, 2019 2:22 pm  

bren2k wrote:

When will people get it through their thick skulls that there is no form of Brexit that is better than what we have now? Whatever people were told, or what they thought they voted for, is demonstrably undeliverable - it was a false prospectus - and whilst I can see that is frustrating, the blame for that should sit squarely with the people who told those lies in the first place. It seems rather sad that the only people with the bottle to say that, are EU officials.

There are versions of Brexit that could long-term be better than what we have - the deal with the EU will not be as good but that could be counter-balanced/improved with benefits from other deals especially in high growth economies such as those in SE Asia.

The idea that the EU is the good deal in town is also a false prospectus - would you not agree?

At the end of the day this is about the long term not the next 5 years.

Re: Brexit Anyone ? (part 3) : Tue Apr 02, 2019 2:23 pm  

It really is time some people just poated (sic) on the Dailty Mail comments section and spread their delusion on there.

Re: Brexit Anyone ? (part 3) : Tue Apr 02, 2019 2:25 pm  

bren2k wrote:

It really is time some people just poated (sic) on the Dailty Mail comments section and spread their delusion on there.

So this becomes a left wing echo chamber like every other social media platform?

Re: Brexit Anyone ? (part 3) : Tue Apr 02, 2019 2:27 pm  

Sal Paradise wrote:

There are versions of Brexit that could long-term be better than what we have - the deal with the EU will not be as good but that could be counter-balanced/improved with benefits from other deals especially in high growth economies such as those in SE Asia.

The idea that the EU is the good deal in town is also a false prospectus - would you not agree?

At the end of the day this is about the long term not the next 5 years.

At the time of the campaign, no one, not a single person, talked about years of pain to restore parity, medicine shortages, roaming charges, Irish borders or coulds or maybes - the electorate were sold a land of easiest trade deals in history, 350 million quid a week savings and free unicorns for everyone; bit by bit, as the truth has come out, the rhetoric has been slowly dialled down to try to intersect somewhere with the reality - to the point where now, we're talking about Brexit paying off in years, and the fact that we survived WW2 (although many people patently didn't) so we can survive this.

And still, very few people can articulate one single area of their lives that have been negatively impacted by EU membership - or one that will improve upon leaving. It's loving madness.

Re: Brexit Anyone ? (part 3) : Tue Apr 02, 2019 2:44 pm  

bren2k wrote:

At the time of the campaign, no one, not a single person, talked about years of pain to restore parity, medicine shortages, roaming charges, Irish borders or coulds or maybes - the electorate were sold a land of easiest trade deals in history, 350 million quid a week savings and free unicorns for everyone; bit by bit, as the truth has come out, the rhetoric has been slowly dialled down to try to intersect somewhere with the reality - to the point where now, we're talking about Brexit paying off in years, and the fact that we survived WW2 (although many people patently didn't) so we can survive this.

And still, very few people can articulate one single area of their lives that have been negatively impacted by EU membership - or one that will improve upon leaving. It's loving madness.

The remain campaign said the economy would collapse and we would need an emergency budget with a hike in tax rates if we voted to leave. Something you appear to have omitted from your post? Or are you suggesting that didn't happen?

People voted for three main things: Control of the borders, control of law making, not having to make to make financial contributions to the EU. All of these are definitely deliverable in a leave situation.

For me no deal could be detrimental short term, however long term the growth economies are not in Europe and could we do better deals with these countries outside of the EU that would benefit us more longer term.

Re: Brexit Anyone ? (part 3) : Tue Apr 02, 2019 2:44 pm  

post wrote:

So this becomes a left wing echo chamber like every other social media platform?

In what ways are the EU making it so difficult? In what ways are they screwing us so hard?

Re: Brexit Anyone ? (part 3) : Tue Apr 02, 2019 2:49 pm  

tigertot wrote:

In what ways are the EU making it so difficult? In what ways are they screwing us so hard?

By giving us a bad deal or nothing.