Re: More Mobile Phone discussion : Thu Sep 13, 2012 7:29 pm  

Saddened! wrote:

And changing the charge input is just petty, no need for that at all. What a kick in the teeth to all it's fans who now how to potentially buy new chargers, car chargers, desk docks and speaker docks.

To be fair Apple wouldn't be the main beneficiary of the change, the vast proportion of addons are made by third party manufacturers, many not part of Apple's "Made For" scheme.

Re: More Mobile Phone discussion : Thu Sep 13, 2012 8:22 pm  

Big Graeme wrote:

To be fair Apple wouldn't be the main beneficiary of the change, the vast proportion of addons are made by third party manufacturers, many not part of Apple's "Made For" scheme.

They will still make many millions from the adapters alone. There are a lot of Appleites who will only buy Apple products. It always pains me at work when I see the volumes of orders we get for official Apple headphones, which up to this point have been awful and horrendously overpriced. People will still buy their chargers and adapters.

The people who lose out are those people who either buy Apple's adapters or those who already had peripherals based on the old system.

A lot of the smaller third party manufacturers will also lose out as the cost of designing and producing new products will put a big dent in their cashflow.

Re: More Mobile Phone discussion : Sun Sep 16, 2012 8:19 pm  

christopher wrote: If they had moved to the industry standard one (is there one?) Micro USB. Apparently Apple signed up to this. christopher wrote: Should computers still have SCSI drives because changing to USB would mean changing peripherals? No but computers do still have SCSI drives for reasons totally unrelated to USB. Mainly because there's no real overlap between the use cases for SCSI and USB. A better analogy may be the move from the parallel port to USB for connecting printers. This may not help your case though as for many years the majority of both computers and printers supported both parallel port and USB.

christopher wrote: If they had moved to the industry standard one (is there one?) Micro USB. Apparently Apple signed up to this. christopher wrote: Should computers still have SCSI drives because changing to USB would mean changing peripherals? No but computers do still have SCSI drives for reasons totally unrelated to USB. Mainly because there's no real overlap between the use cases for SCSI and USB. A better analogy may be the move from the parallel port to USB for connecting printers. This may not help your case though as for many years the majority of both computers and printers supported both parallel port and USB.

Re: More Mobile Phone discussion : Mon Sep 17, 2012 11:29 am  

SBR wrote: Micro USB. Apparently Apple signed up to this. No but computers do still have SCSI drives for reasons totally unrelated to USB. Mainly because there's no real overlap between the use cases for SCSI and USB. Erm, Apple used SCSI for peripherals, until dropping it for USB. From Apple's website Answer: SCSI, or Small Computer System Interface, is a standard for connecting peripherals to your computer, including disk and cartridge drives, CD-ROM drives, scanners, and other devices. A SCSI port was included on most Macintosh systems up until the iMac and the 1999 models of the Power Macintosh G3 and Macintosh Server G3. So there clearly is an overlap. Anyway, I have never understood people liked Saddened who seem to get worked up over a device that they clearly aren't going to buy, he seems to want Apple to come up with something groundbreaking but sticking with outdate things, the connector on the current iPhones is from the first iPod which is 11 years old, its about time they updated it.

SBR wrote: Micro USB. Apparently Apple signed up to this. No but computers do still have SCSI drives for reasons totally unrelated to USB. Mainly because there's no real overlap between the use cases for SCSI and USB. Erm, Apple used SCSI for peripherals, until dropping it for USB. From Apple's website Answer: SCSI, or Small Computer System Interface, is a standard for connecting peripherals to your computer, including disk and cartridge drives, CD-ROM drives, scanners, and other devices. A SCSI port was included on most Macintosh systems up until the iMac and the 1999 models of the Power Macintosh G3 and Macintosh Server G3. So there clearly is an overlap. Anyway, I have never understood people liked Saddened who seem to get worked up over a device that they clearly aren't going to buy, he seems to want Apple to come up with something groundbreaking but sticking with outdate things, the connector on the current iPhones is from the first iPod which is 11 years old, its about time they updated it.

Re: More Mobile Phone discussion : Mon Sep 17, 2012 11:37 am  

How do you transfer your current phone number to a new phone ?

Re: More Mobile Phone discussion : Mon Sep 17, 2012 11:39 am  

Dead Man Walking wrote:

How do you transfer your current phone number to a new phone ?

Take SIM out of old phone and put it in the new one

Re: More Mobile Phone discussion : Mon Sep 17, 2012 1:47 pm  

I wasnt exactly enthralled by the new iPhone and i have time on my 4S contract so ill decide what to do when that is finished.
I think they are making it very friendly to the US market with its new features such as passbook and the like. I dont think it applied all to well with the UK market, i imagine the new Maps will have London down to a T but other cities we will have to wait for much like how over here Siri cannot be used to find restaurants etc. Passbook will take time to make its mark in the UK imo The bigger screen was a must and they kindly threw in the Retina screen for good measure and because they can. The pin thing doesnt bother me because if youre spending however many quids it will take to get the new iPhone then more than likely you knew there would be a new connector priced around 30 quid to buy too. 25 quid isnt too bad. The panorama camera is a nice touch as is the super duper fast wireless.

I love Apple products and went Mac a while back but there isnt much more they could do with the iPhone, once they make a smaller iPad they will have exhausted that market too. I wont be rushing out to buy one but i am interested in having a go on one and seeing the difference. I'd ideally like to take one out of the Apple Store and use it where there is a 3G/E signal and see how good it was then.

Re: More Mobile Phone discussion : Mon Sep 17, 2012 3:17 pm  

christopher wrote:

Anyway, I have never understood people liked Saddened who seem to get worked up over a device that they clearly aren't going to buy, he seems to want Apple to come up with something groundbreaking but sticking with outdate things, the connector on the current iPhones is from the first iPod which is 11 years old, its about time they updated it.

I'm not worked up about it, it's not doing me any harm. I'm just discussing it. The £25 adapter and not following the industry standard that everyone else does is just petty.

Re: More Mobile Phone discussion : Mon Sep 17, 2012 3:32 pm  

christopher wrote:

the connector on the current iPhones is from the first iPod which is 11 years old, its about time they updated it.

There is no reason the couldn't have used the industry standard Mini USB connector, apart that is from the £25 they think they can charge for an adaptor.

Re: More Mobile Phone discussion : Mon Sep 17, 2012 3:46 pm  

Big Graeme wrote:

Take SIM out of old phone and put it in the new one

Indeed.

If he meant transferring it to a new phone on a new network, he'd have to approach his current network for a PAC code, which when given to the new network will ensure a magic changeover onto the new network (After a few days).