Re: Brexit Anyone? : Sun Jun 05, 2016 1:16 am  

The main argument from the remain side seems to be 'yeah we know the EU is sh*t and it's only going to get worse but do you really want to risk a step into the unknown?'

Re: Brexit Anyone? : Sun Jun 05, 2016 8:08 am  

The thought of Boris and Micheal ending up in charge of Britain scares the life out of me , however the hypocrisy being displayed by the ' in ' campaign is quite ridiculous

Short term pain for long term gain for me , out

[Kosh]

Re: Brexit Anyone? : Sun Jun 05, 2016 8:13 am  

GUBRATS wrote:

Short term pain for long term gain for me , out

What long term gain would that be, precisely?

[Kosh]

Re: Brexit Anyone? : Sun Jun 05, 2016 8:15 am  

I'll be voting to stay in as I am not any of the following:

1. Ill-informed
2. Xenophobic
3. Stupid
4. A conspiracy fruitcake
5. All of the above

Plus Brexiters make me embarrassed to be British.

Re: Brexit Anyone? : Sun Jun 05, 2016 8:22 am  

Kosh wrote:

What long term gain would that be, precisely?

I believe we will have no problems trading with the world including the EU after initially seeing short term issues

Re: Brexit Anyone? : Sun Jun 05, 2016 8:24 am  

Kosh wrote:

I'll be voting to stay in as I am not any of the following:

1. Ill-informed
2. Xenophobic
3. Stupid
4. A conspiracy fruitcake
5. All of the above

Plus Brexiters make me embarrassed to be British.

All entitled to an opinion I would hope , or perhaps not

Re: Brexit Anyone? : Sun Jun 05, 2016 8:44 am  

Kosh wrote:

I'll be voting to stay in as I am not any of the following:

1. Ill-informed
2. Xenophobic
3. Stupid
4. A conspiracy fruitcake
5. All of the above

Plus Brexiters make me embarrassed to be British.

Do you think the EU is a true democracy and are you happy with the unelected bureaucrats?

1. Why are all brexiters ill informed?
2. I love immigration and those voting to exit purely based on immigration also embarrass me.
3. There are some extremely bright brexiters and to call them all stupid does yourself a disservice
4. There are some i won't disagree

Re: Brexit Anyone? : Sun Jun 05, 2016 8:46 am  

Kosh wrote:

What long term gain would that be, precisely?

Giving future generations the right to self determination?

Re: Brexit Anyone? : Sun Jun 05, 2016 10:52 am  

wigan_rlfc wrote:

The main argument from the remain side seems to be 'yeah we know the EU is sh*t and it's only going to get worse but do you really want to risk a step into the unknown?'

Self-determination is ALWAYS the right choice but I'm afraid both sides are deluding themselves here. Just look at the nations which have attempted to pursue a path of true self-determination over the last few decades (Iraq, Iran, Yugoslavia etc.) - not a pretty sight, is it?

From the beginning this vote has almost exclusively been about personalities rather than tangible policies. Which tells me it's a contrived wedge-issue specifically designed to make people think they really do have a say in the political process.

Basically, there's something big in the pipeline. Cameron has taken his full body burden of radioactivity and so it's time to bring in someone fresh whilst making sure that the public thinks it was their decision all along.

I've said it before but no decision which is as important as mainstream media currently emphasizes would ever be left to the whims of the unwashed masses.

Just look at some of the posts above. I wouldn't trust most of these morons to eat with a fork and not stab themselves in the eye. And now you wish to put DEMOCRACY itself in their hands?

Re: Brexit Anyone? : Sun Jun 05, 2016 10:58 am  

Mugwump wrote:

Self-determination is ALWAYS the right choice but I'm afraid both sides are deluding themselves here. Just look at the nations which have attempted to pursue a path of true self-determination over the last few decades (Iraq, Iran, Yugoslavia etc.) - not a pretty sight, is it?

From the beginning this vote has almost exclusively been about personalities rather than tangible policies. Which tells me it's a contrived wedge-issue specifically designed to make people think they really do have a say in the political process.

Basically, there's something big in the pipeline. Cameron has taken his full body burden of radioactivity and so it's time to bring in someone fresh whilst making sure that the public thinks it was their decision all along.

I've said it before but no decision which is as important as mainstream media currently emphasizes would ever be left to the whims of the unwashed masses.

Just look at some of the posts above. I wouldn't trust most of these morons to eat with a fork and not stab themselves in the eye. And now you wish to put DEMOCRACY itself in their hands?

And you instill confidence with your crazy theories ?