Re: Terrorism in Paris again. : Tue Nov 24, 2015 6:56 pm  

Hold on to your hats its about to go off. A video of Syrian rebels allegedly firing at a Russian-made helicopter on the ground has been posted on a YouTube channel associated with the FSA’s 1st Coastal Brigade. The helicopter is said to have been on a search mission for the pilots of the Su-24 jet downed by Turkey in Syria this morning. https://youtu.be/2vxxQOTCN18

Hold on to your hats its about to go off. A video of Syrian rebels allegedly firing at a Russian-made helicopter on the ground has been posted on a YouTube channel associated with the FSA’s 1st Coastal Brigade. The helicopter is said to have been on a search mission for the pilots of the Su-24 jet downed by Turkey in Syria this morning. https://youtu.be/2vxxQOTCN18

Re: Terrorism in Paris again. : Tue Nov 24, 2015 7:18 pm  

All this reminded me of an article I read by Seymour Hersh back in 2007... If you didn't know any better, it could've been written this morning. http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2007/ ... edirection

All this reminded me of an article I read by Seymour Hersh back in 2007... If you didn't know any better, it could've been written this morning. http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2007/ ... edirection

Re: Terrorism in Paris again. : Tue Nov 24, 2015 11:00 pm  

It's kinda pointless discussing current US foreign policy because we're currently in the "lame duck" period of Obama's second term. A lot of faith has been attached to the recent nuclear deal with Iran but I suspect it's little more than a smokescreen for actions further down the line.

The analogy I use for the Democrats and the Republicans is that of the train and its driver. Ultimately, it really doesn't matter which you choose because the train is on rails. The destination known. The only difference between the two is the Democrats occasionally apply the handbrake whilst the Republicans just tear it off completely and stamp on the accelerator.

However, with Jeb Bush & Hilary the two likely presidential contenders even the handbrake could soon become a thing of the past. The weird thing is - they are a lot closer than many people believe. Bush the elder nominated Bill Clinton when it became obvious that he was looking down a gun barrel if he won a second term in the White House over the litany of crimes which spilled out of Iran-Contra. After all, Clinton was up to his eyeballs in the very same cocaine trafficking mess which was being run out of Mena, Arkansas by Barry Seal and the CIA. Within a few weeks of Clinton's inauguration the Iran-Contra special prosecutor, Laurence Walsh, quietly shelved plans to investigate Poppy. And when Kenneth Starr's Senate Whitewater investigations were getting perilously close to the string of dead bodies which littered the Clintons' wake - Poppy returned the favour and Starr suddenly faced a few troubles of his own.

But don't let the above reciprocity confuse you. These are not equal partners. Whilst the Clintons invariably occupy top spot with the media - they are totally outmatched in all other departments. The Bushes have the lineage, the money and unrivaled connections to the absolute top tier of the national security state, defence establishment, big finance etc.

Even if you choose Clinton - you're still getting Bush's foreign policy. Just look at the cast of characters surrounding Hilary - it's the same crowd of reactionary Zionists which plagued the younger Bush's presidency.

If people thought Obama was out of control with his assassination squads and drone strikes - wait till these nutcases grab the reins of power.

Re: Terrorism in Paris again. : Tue Nov 24, 2015 11:07 pm  

Let's hope Sanders gets the keys then, he seems more concerned with internal politics.

Re: Terrorism in Paris again. : Wed Nov 25, 2015 12:22 am  

Wire Yed wrote:

Let's hope Sanders gets the keys then, he seems more concerned with internal politics.

I don't agree with everything Sanders puts forward, however he is the only candidate who has promised to reform campaign finance, end the military industrialcomplex, open up the federal reserve, and end America's reliance on fossil fuels. So obviously he hasn't a cat in hello chance of getting the nomination


Adolf Hillary has received more donations from wall Street than any other politician in the last 15 years, but the fact that she's a woman seems to mean she'll get the nomination despite being a complete snake.

Re: Terrorism in Paris again. : Wed Nov 25, 2015 9:14 am  

Bernie Sanders is like the single blank bullet inserted into a firing squad's ammunition which allows each member to entertain the idea that they bear no responsibility.

Just about every US election has a Sanders-type figure. And the result is always the same. Because if there was ever the slightest possibility that he might win he'd suddenly suffer what I term an "apparant heart attack", or he'd mysteriously quit at the height of his popularity (see H. Ross Perot), or his new plane would crash (see Paul Wellstone, John F. Kennedy Jnr. etc.) in perfect weather, or he'd be gunned down by some deranged "lone nut" (see George Wallace). This is what the Watergate affair threatened to uncover when the cops picked up E. Howard Hunt, Frank Sturgis and company bugging the Democratic National Committee.

"The Watergate burglary... it was a Haldeman operation. The whole business was run by Haldeman, the money... everything. It won't be easy getting at him. He was insulated somehow, you'll have to find out how. Mitchell started doing covert stuff before anyone else. The list of the people involved is longer than anyone can imagine. It involves the entire U.S. Intelligence Community. FBI... CIA... Justice... it's incredible. The cover-up had little to do with the Watergate foul-up. It was mainly to protect the covert operations. It leads everywhere. Get out your notebook. There's more. Your lives are in danger." -- All the President's Men

"The people behind all of this were frightened of Muskie and that's what got him destroyed. They wanted to run against McGovern. Look who they're running against. They bugged offices, they followed people, planted false press leaks, passed fake letters... they canceled Democratic campaign rallies, they investigated Democratic private lives, they planted spies, they stole documents... and now don't tell me that all of this was the work of one Donald Segretti." -- All the Presiden't Men

In reality neither the book nor the movie based on Woodward & Bernstein's investigation went far enough. Richard Nixon wasn't just running a "dirty tricks" campaign. I mean, you can believe Arthur Bremer pumping half-a-dozen bullets into George Wallace leaving him paralysed from the waist down, or the death of Mary Joe Kopechne (which put Ted Kennedy out of the running) or the crash of United Airlines 553 which just happened to be ferrying Dorothy Hunt and suitcase full of hush-money for the Watergate burglars were all "freak co-incidences" which just happened to benefit Tricky Dick - but you're really only deluding yourself.

Re: Terrorism in Paris again. : Wed Nov 25, 2015 11:06 am  

Mugwump wrote:

Bernie Sanders is like the single blank bullet inserted into a firing squad's ammunition which allows each member to entertain the idea that they bear no responsibility.

Just about every US election has a Sanders-type figure. And the result is always the same. Because if there was ever the slightest possibility that he might win he'd suddenly suffer what I term an "apparant heart attack", or he'd mysteriously quit at the height of his popularity (see H. Ross Perot), or his new plane would crash (see Paul Wellstone, John F. Kennedy Jnr. etc.) in perfect weather, or he'd be gunned down by some deranged "lone nut" (see George Wallace). This is what the Watergate affair threatened to uncover when the cops picked up E. Howard Hunt, Frank Sturgis and company bugging the Democratic National Committee.

"The Watergate burglary... it was a Haldeman operation. The whole business was run by Haldeman, the money... everything. It won't be easy getting at him. He was insulated somehow, you'll have to find out how. Mitchell started doing covert stuff before anyone else. The list of the people involved is longer than anyone can imagine. It involves the entire U.S. Intelligence Community. FBI... CIA... Justice... it's incredible. The cover-up had little to do with the Watergate foul-up. It was mainly to protect the covert operations. It leads everywhere. Get out your notebook. There's more. Your lives are in danger." -- All the President's Men

"The people behind all of this were frightened of Muskie and that's what got him destroyed. They wanted to run against McGovern. Look who they're running against. They bugged offices, they followed people, planted false press leaks, passed fake letters... they canceled Democratic campaign rallies, they investigated Democratic private lives, they planted spies, they stole documents... and now don't tell me that all of this was the work of one Donald Segretti." -- All the Presiden't Men

In reality neither the book nor the movie based on Woodward & Bernstein's investigation went far enough. Richard Nixon wasn't just running a "dirty tricks" campaign. I mean, you can believe Arthur Bremer pumping half-a-dozen bullets into George Wallace leaving him paralysed from the waist down, or the death of Mary Joe Kopechne (which put Ted Kennedy out of the running) or the crash of United Airlines 553 which just happened to be ferrying Dorothy Hunt and suitcase full of hush-money for the Watergate burglars were all "freak co-incidences" which just happened to benefit Tricky Dick - but you're really only deluding yourself.

Is there anything in the World that isn't a Conspiracy? It's a good job we have brilliant investigators like you and old Fake quote Stanley to save the day!

Re: Terrorism in Paris again. : Wed Nov 25, 2015 3:11 pm  

JLM32 wrote:

Is there anything in the World that isn't a Conspiracy? It's a good job we have brilliant investigators like you and old Fake quote Stanley to save the day!

Are you capable of dedicating any thoughts or informative discussion relating to this thread at all instead of trolling rhetorical abuse. If you think or feel its nonsensical garbage then why don't you elaborate your findings instead of reverting to brain insults and playground name calling.

Obviously not everything what goes on in this world is a conspiracy but unfortunately whether you like it or not there's an esoteric Occultist network system operating and manipulating most governments agenda's covertly at high level around the world today. If you could be arsed to even ponder looking into the historical nature's of this satanic occultism and where it all began and studied the symbolism, synchronism and numerology then you would begin to acknowledge and understand these elitist's workings are evident everywhere and they've infiltrated every walk of life in society. All Royals, Generals, Judges, Bankers, Oil tycoons, Police Commissioners, MP's, lawyers, Popes, Religious leaders, Spy's, Lord's, Barons, Hollywood stars, TV Stations, All Media including newspaper and Radio, Music Moguls, Music legends, and corporate business owners are involved and belong in Secret Societies or secret brotherhoods which have been going strongly since the birth of the first knights templar king in 1110 AD or even earlier.. Every single war which took place has been manipulated by this brotherhood and they won't be stopping at any near time in the future. Their goal is Orwell's 1984 vision of a one world government, one world army, one world monetary system and they're so close to achieving this goal. Their Motto is Order out of Chaos. ( ring any bells ?) Call me mad, insane, and fruitcake i really don't care i've researched these monsters for years you haven't.

Re: Terrorism in Paris again. : Wed Nov 25, 2015 3:44 pm  

FLAT STANLEY wrote:

Are you capable of dedicating any thoughts or informative discussion relating to this thread at all instead of trolling rhetorical abuse. If you think or feel its nonsensical garbage then why don't you elaborate your findings instead of reverting to brain insults and playground name calling.

Obviously not everything what goes on in this world is a conspiracy but unfortunately whether you like it or not there's an esoteric Occultist network system operating and manipulating most governments agenda's covertly at high level around the world today. If you could be arsed to even ponder looking into the historical nature's of this satanic occultism and where it all began and studied the symbolism, synchronism and numerology then you would begin to acknowledge and understand these elitist's workings are evident everywhere and they've infiltrated every walk of life in society. All Royals, Generals, Judges, Bankers, Oil tycoons, Police Commissioners, MP's, lawyers, Popes, Religious leaders, Spy's, Lord's, Barons, Hollywood stars, TV Stations, All Media including newspaper and Radio, Music Moguls, Music legends, and corporate business owners are involved and belong in Secret Societies or secret brotherhoods which have been going strongly since the birth of the first knights templar king in 1110 AD or even earlier.. Every single war which took place has been manipulated by this brotherhood and they won't be stopping at any near time in the future. Their goal is Orwell's 1984 vision of a one world government, one world army, one world monetary system and they're so close to achieving this goal. Call me mad, insane, and fruitcake i really don't care i've researched these monsters for years you haven't.

But you see, there lies your issue. Your research comes from ridiculous places. You proudly brought out a quote that apparently proved beyond doubt people were working towards a New World Order. Within about an hour, I'd easily proved the quote never even happened.

Playground name calling like Pinky would that be? You are sadly becoming more and more of a parody account each day. I've elaborated on several points, however, every time someone does that, you don't take them on. Just move onto your next batshit crazy idea.

You need to stop researching the Daily Crackpot and go out and see the World. Maybe then, you will see there aren't conspiracies lurking around every corner.

Re: Terrorism in Paris again. : Wed Nov 25, 2015 4:00 pm  

JLM32 wrote:

You need to stop researching the Daily Crackpot and go out and see the World. Maybe then, you will see there aren't conspiracies lurking around every corner.

You really are misguided, . Please do not pass on your genetic code to future generations as this would be a travesty.