Re: General Election campaign : Thu Oct 31, 2019 5:10 pm  

tigertot wrote:

Even if there was something tangible in what you say the fact that you specifically identify these people as women shows just how backward you are. It's not just you, it's the Nazi supporting paper you read that portrays them as such, & you, & your gammon ilk, are so shallow you cannot recognise it. Tell me, why did you feel the need to identify your perceived defects in women & not a grouping of priviliged white men?
Even by your bigoted neanderthal standards that is odious. Nothing to do with her qualities as an MP or person, just her appearance.
You support a self-obsessed, narcissist, woman abuser, serial liar as PM. Is Jess a bit rough for you? Do you feel threatened by extremely hard working women who balance a family life? Are you more comfortable with your golf club sexist bores?

It all about opinions - it wouldn't do for us all to think the same - you are the same as Ghost - anyone who complains about the EU is a xenophobe, anyone who complains about Islam is a racist anyone who suggests a man in a dress is still a man is a transphobe give us a break. What could we say about Keith Vass that wouldn't offend you delicate sensitivities?

I was pointing out that Corbyn has surrounded himself with a host of women who are the face of the Labour party - in my view this is a weakness - not because they are women but because of their personality traits and how they present themselves in the media.

Out in the real world where we risk everything that in includes the roof over my head to employ people to make money and pay taxes to keep the likes of you in your cushy public sector job, don't find politicians intimidating quite the opposite a bunch of people that the vast majority have never had a job outside of politics/quangos/unions - has Corbyn ever worked in a job in the real world, same can be said of McDonald. How can these people tell businesses how to run - last week Corbyn was suggesting McDonalds pay a minimum of £15/hour - franchises would be bankrupt in 3 months. Asda made £810m on several billion of sales - it has 120k employees give them all £100 a week extra and the profits are wiped out and job losses start.

Hypocrites most of them - Phillips would stab a Tory yet cry wolf about the word humbug, Abbott wants to ban public schools yet sent her kids to public school - but in your world saying that makes you a woman hater. I have mentioned Vass he should jailed end of - sat on ethics committee another hypocrite.

Re: General Election campaign : Thu Oct 31, 2019 5:46 pm  

Sal Paradise wrote:

It all about opinions - it wouldn't do for us all to think the same - you are the same as Ghost - anyone who complains about the EU is a xenophobe, anyone who complains about Islam is a racist anyone who suggests a man in a dress is still a man is a transphobe give us a break. What could we say about Keith Vass that wouldn't offend you delicate sensitivities?

I was pointing out that Corbyn has surrounded himself with a host of women who are the face of the Labour party - in my view this is a weakness - not because they are women but because of their personality traits and how they present themselves in the media.

Out in the real world where we risk everything that in includes the roof over my head to employ people to make money and pay taxes to keep the likes of you in your cushy public sector job, don't find politicians intimidating quite the opposite a bunch of people that the vast majority have never had a job outside of politics/quangos/unions - has Corbyn ever worked in a job in the real world, same can be said of McDonald. How can these people tell businesses how to run - last week Corbyn was suggesting McDonalds pay a minimum of £15/hour - franchises would be bankrupt in 3 months. Asda made £810m on several billion of sales - it has 120k employees give them all £100 a week extra and the profits are wiped out and job losses start.

Hypocrites most of them - Phillips would stab a Tory yet cry wolf about the word humbug, Abbott wants to ban public schools yet sent her kids to public school - but in your world saying that makes you a woman hater. I have mentioned Vass he should jailed end of - sat on ethics committee another hypocrite.

I dont often agree with you but, you are right to point out the desire to pay the lowest paid staff £15 per hour.
IIRC, Corbyn also wants 16 year olds to be paid a minimum of £10.00 per hour.

Mind you, it could all be electioneering, something that we've seen plenty of from Johnson.

20 new hospitals ring any bells ?? or 20,000 ADDITIONAL police officers, both of which we know to be utter nonsense
(The 20,000 ADDITIONAL police officers cannot be achieved when you take account of the numbers retiring/leaving the force and the new hospitals I understand is now down to 5 or 6).
It seems like the Johnson lies and exaggerations during the leave campaign have just carried on.

Does he EVER tell the truth or hit his self proclaimed targets, I dont think so.

Re: General Election campaign : Thu Oct 31, 2019 7:50 pm  

I haven’t seen any policy that advocates a £15 per hour minimum wage, I believe labours policy is £10 per hour.

Those like Sal who claim it’s not possible and will cause mass unemployment etc, these are exactly the same arguments used against bringing a minimum wage into start with, something the Conservative party unanimously opposed.

Sal you use Asda as an example, they are owned by the Walmart family who have wealth of over £100billion, they can afford to pay staff a real living wage.

The likes of Asda employing people on minimum wage are essentially getting the tax payer to pay part of their employees wages, as they claim benefits in order to survive despite working full time.

Why should the tax payer subsidise the wages paid out by billionaires? They need to be made to pay their employees a real living wage.

Re: General Election campaign : Fri Nov 01, 2019 12:54 am  

Sal Paradise wrote:

has Corbyn ever worked in a job in the real world,

Journalist, overseas aid worker in West Indies for two years then back to UK and a geography teacher before becoming trade union official for NUPE.

Re: General Election campaign : Fri Nov 01, 2019 6:28 am  

Trevork52 wrote:

Journalist, overseas aid worker in West Indies for two years then back to UK and a geography teacher before becoming trade union official for NUPE.

So it's a no then

Re: General Election campaign : Fri Nov 01, 2019 7:15 am  

Trevork52 wrote:

Journalist, overseas aid worker in West Indies for two years then back to UK and a geography teacher before becoming trade union official for NUPE.

As far as I can tell he had a VERY brief stint as a local journalist aged 18 before heading to the Caribbean for 2 years at the age of 19, during which time he filled in as a geography teacher at Kingston College for a short spell.

Since returning to the UK aged 21 he's basically been a Trade Union official before becoming a politician. His only attempt at a further education failed when he left Uni after arguing with his tutors.

So no, he's never had a real job in the sense of the average person. He enjoyed a wealthy and entitled upbringing and has been a crusty ever since.

Re: General Election campaign : Fri Nov 01, 2019 8:13 am  

Cronus wrote:

As far as I can tell he had a VERY brief stint as a local journalist aged 18 before heading to the Caribbean for 2 years at the age of 19, during which time he filled in as a geography teacher at Kingston College for a short spell.

Since returning to the UK aged 21 he's basically been a Trade Union official before becoming a politician. His only attempt at a further education failed when he left Uni after arguing with his tutors.

So no, he's never had a real job in the sense of the average person. He enjoyed a wealthy and entitled upbringing and has been a crusty ever since.

Similar to Johnson then

Journalist and then politician, spouting right wing driver all of his life, just with a little more privilege

Re: General Election campaign : Fri Nov 01, 2019 11:32 am  

wrencat1873 wrote:

Similar to Johnson then

Journalist and then politician, spouting right wing driver all of his life, just with a little more privilege

But Johnson doesn't spout all the Marxist cobblers that Corbyn does.

Re: General Election campaign : Fri Nov 01, 2019 12:08 pm  

Sal Paradise wrote:

But Johnson doesn't spout all the Marxist cobblers that Corbyn does.

That's because he doesn't actually give a damn about anyone apart from, well, Boris.
(I'm assuming that the "Marxist" tag came straight from the Telegraph ?)

Re: General Election campaign : Fri Nov 01, 2019 12:40 pm  

Sir Kevin Sinfield wrote:

I haven’t seen any policy that advocates a £15 per hour minimum wage, I believe labours policy is £10 per hour.

Those like Sal who claim it’s not possible and will cause mass unemployment etc, these are exactly the same arguments used against bringing a minimum wage into start with, something the Conservative party unanimously opposed.

Sal you use Asda as an example, they are owned by the Walmart family who have wealth of over £100billion, they can afford to pay staff a real living wage.

The likes of Asda employing people on minimum wage are essentially getting the tax payer to pay part of their employees wages, as they claim benefits in order to survive despite working full time.

Why should the tax payer subsidise the wages paid out by billionaires? They need to be made to pay their employees a real living wage.

Suggest you follow Corbyn on twitter