Re: Ukraine : Thu Mar 10, 2022 10:28 pm  

Scarlet Pimpernell wrote:

They point out what they have done but unfortunately on further investigation these statements turn out to be not the truth.

Vote Tory, get Tories.

In its current almost Trump-like incarnation lying, deceit and gaslighting are par for the course.

Re: Ukraine : Thu Mar 10, 2022 10:59 pm  

chissitt wrote:

Not quite sure about this, but I would have thought that the Russian cash swilling around London would belong to the Russians, and where as I'm as sure as I can be that some will be going to places it should not be, I doubt these oligarchs have got what they have by giving it away as substantially as you are implying.
With regards to the way the Ukrainian refugees have been treated I can understand to a point the need for the UK to be careful in their screening of these people regarding security, having said that the government are quick to point out they've done this that and tuther, and we were the first to introduce this and that yet shamefully can't get they're finger out and join the rest of the other countries when it comes to the humanitarian side of things, utterly disgraceful.

And if the cash / assets in London belong to Russian Oligarchs, then, "we" should be sanctioning them swiftly not, talking the talk just long enough for them to move their cash back to Russia and only then taking action. Abramovich seems a reasonable example.

Re: Ukraine : Fri Mar 11, 2022 7:17 am  

wrencat1873 wrote:

And if the cash / assets in London belong to Russian Oligarchs, then, "we" should be sanctioning them swiftly not, talking the talk just long enough for them to move their cash back to Russia and only then taking action. Abramovich seems a reasonable example.

Quite right, but you have to factor in their television appearances, plus they're globetrotting now on the agenda, at least I can now put a face to the names of some of them.

Re: Ukraine : Fri Mar 11, 2022 7:20 am  

The Ghost of '99 wrote:

Vote Tory, get Tories.

In its current almost Trump-like incarnation lying, deceit and gaslighting are par for the course.

Has being this grumpy got anything to do with Agar?

Re: Ukraine : Mon Mar 14, 2022 9:14 am  

Boris's popularity is sky high again, as he demonstrates his unquestionable skill of working on the world leadership stage, whilst the other guy in the commons sits on his hands and agrees with everything Boris is doing.
Are you lot still talking about a few pints after work in his Downing street office!

[Mild Rover]

Re: Ukraine : Mon Mar 14, 2022 11:10 am  

wire-quin wrote: Boris's popularity is sky high again, as he demonstrates his unquestionable skill of working on the world leadership stage, whilst the other guy in the commons sits on his hands and agrees with everything Boris is doing. Are you lot still talking about a few pints after work in his Downing street office! I’m glad you’re able to find some happiness in the situation. Every cloud, eh? Which measure of his popularity are you referring to? I see The Daily Express recently described evidence given by the Prime Minister to the Liaison Committee as ‘embarrassing’. https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/15720 ... llwood-spt As you’re keen to move on from breaches of public health policy in his office (by the way, if you hold him in as much disdain as me and you’re parodying his supporters… thank you ), and discuss his world leadership, what did you make of his six-point plan? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-60634017

wire-quin wrote: Boris's popularity is sky high again, as he demonstrates his unquestionable skill of working on the world leadership stage, whilst the other guy in the commons sits on his hands and agrees with everything Boris is doing. Are you lot still talking about a few pints after work in his Downing street office! I’m glad you’re able to find some happiness in the situation. Every cloud, eh? Which measure of his popularity are you referring to? I see The Daily Express recently described evidence given by the Prime Minister to the Liaison Committee as ‘embarrassing’. https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/15720 ... llwood-spt As you’re keen to move on from breaches of public health policy in his office (by the way, if you hold him in as much disdain as me and you’re parodying his supporters… thank you ), and discuss his world leadership, what did you make of his six-point plan? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-60634017

Re: Ukraine : Mon Mar 14, 2022 12:39 pm  

Yes de Pfeffel certainly brings laughter to any stage he appears on. He is at best irrelevant other than the fact that due to his success in allowing Russian oligarchs to launder money in London any sanctions he applies will have a greater impact than any other country. The problem was as per usual he was too slow to act and was forces into action by others including the man sat on his hands.
With regards popularity I would suggest you look at the recent poll that came out in London.

Re: Ukraine : Mon Mar 14, 2022 12:49 pm  

Cosying up to a ghastly regime to try to mitigate the economic damage of decoupling from another ghastly regime https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/john-wight/saudi-arabia-extremism_b_16948624.html

Cosying up to a ghastly regime to try to mitigate the economic damage of decoupling from another ghastly regime https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/john-wight/saudi-arabia-extremism_b_16948624.html

Re: Ukraine : Mon Mar 14, 2022 1:34 pm  

Scarlet Pimpernell wrote:

Yes de Pfeffel certainly brings laughter to any stage he appears on. He is at best irrelevant other than the fact that due to his success in allowing Russian oligarchs to launder money in London any sanctions he applies will have a greater impact than any other country. The problem was as per usual he was too slow to act and was forces into action by others including the man sat on his hands.
With regards popularity I would suggest you look at the recent poll that came out in London.

The relevance of anything you may have said ended right there.

Re: Ukraine : Mon Mar 14, 2022 1:50 pm  

wire-quin wrote: The relevance of anything you may have said ended right there. Meanwhile, your favourite political party keep on making stuff up. Gove, it seems, couldn't get his numbers right, suggesting that 300,000 Ukraine's could settle over here under the new "share a room" scheme. He suggested that 300,000 were now able to come here, when the figure was only 3000 https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/p ... 34722.html It seems that he may have back tracked now Not like the Tories to over egg their pudding, maybe he is a future leader after all

wire-quin wrote: The relevance of anything you may have said ended right there. Meanwhile, your favourite political party keep on making stuff up. Gove, it seems, couldn't get his numbers right, suggesting that 300,000 Ukraine's could settle over here under the new "share a room" scheme. He suggested that 300,000 were now able to come here, when the figure was only 3000 https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/p ... 34722.html It seems that he may have back tracked now Not like the Tories to over egg their pudding, maybe he is a future leader after all