Re: The Labour party leadership thread : Mon Sep 07, 2015 4:59 pm  

I don't believe for one moment that Corbyn can effect any kind of substantive change for the positive in this country - even if some miracle occurs and he somehow finds himself occupying No. 10 Downing Street.

Suffice to say that the breaking "refugee crisis" all but seals his downfall.

From start to finish this has been an engineered crisis executed masterfully in conjunction with the mainstream media.

Stoke up racial tensions for a few years so every third person sees Muslims hiding under the bed. Then turn down the heat for a period whilst you bomb Middle Eastern & North African nations back to the stone age - thus creating a surge of terrified refugees desperate to escape hell back home.

But the real genius was in damming up the flow so that when you allow it to break it literally drowns Europe under a torrent of exiles. Make sure you have plenty of cameras there to film it. Ensure every third story in the newspapers is about our "obligations" to these people - knowing full well that the seeds sown earlier mean this can only result in outrage.

Corbyn is too nice a guy for the sheetstorm which is about to break on Britain. He'll be pilloried for being "too soft" whilst the ultra-right wing parties go gangbusters.

Tory success for decades.

Re: The Labour party leadership thread : Wed Sep 09, 2015 5:41 am  

Hasn't the rise of Scottish nationalism guaranteed Labour will struggle to get elected for a long time anyway?

Re: The Labour party leadership thread : Wed Sep 09, 2015 1:50 pm  

It's pleasing to know that the Tories can now put together a 10+ year plan. Continuity can't be a bad thing, surely.

Re: The Labour party leadership thread : Wed Sep 09, 2015 6:08 pm  

BrisbaneRhino wrote:

Hasn't the rise of Scottish nationalism guaranteed Labour will struggle to get elected for a long time anyway?

I think the rise of Scottish nationalism will fall just as quickly once the Scots realize they've been hustled like a wide-eyed kid playing "Hook A Duck" at the fairground.

Re: The Labour party leadership thread : Thu Sep 10, 2015 1:34 pm  

Mugwump wrote:

I don't believe for one moment that Corbyn can effect any kind of substantive change for the positive in this country - even if some miracle occurs and he somehow finds himself occupying No. 10 Downing Street.

Suffice to say that the breaking "refugee crisis" all but seals his downfall.

From start to finish this has been an engineered crisis executed masterfully in conjunction with the mainstream media.

Stoke up racial tensions for a few years so every third person sees Muslims hiding under the bed. Then turn down the heat for a period whilst you bomb Middle Eastern & North African nations back to the stone age - thus creating a surge of terrified refugees desperate to escape hell back home.

But the real genius was in damming up the flow so that when you allow it to break it literally drowns Europe under a torrent of exiles. Make sure you have plenty of cameras there to film it. Ensure every third story in the newspapers is about our "obligations" to these people - knowing full well that the seeds sown earlier mean this can only result in outrage.

Corbyn is too nice a guy for the sheetstorm which is about to break on Britain. He'll be pilloried for being "too soft" whilst the ultra-right wing parties go gangbusters.

Tory success for decades.

Is anything in your weird and paranoid world NOT the result of years/decades of government conspiracy and black ops?

Odd little fellow. Getting more ridiculous every day.

Tory success for decades. Not for the potty teenage reasons you claim but because the Labour Party has shown and continues to show itself incompetent and unelectable, and vast swathes of the population remember the irretrievable mess they've left us in, economically and demographically.

Re: The Labour party leadership thread : Thu Sep 10, 2015 6:29 pm  

Cronus wrote:

.........and vast swathes of the population remember the irretrievable mess they've left us in, economically and demographically.

Yes we remember what that woman and her dogma driven illogical poodles did and look at the mess the country is in now. The same applies across the pond thanks to the idiot actor and the shrubs who followed.

The whole thing is now blooming as was foretold but then some find it convenient to forget whilst others struggle with joined up thinking allied to a global economy based on greed with little humanity. They planted the seeds.

Strange then that the right wing apologists blame those that suffer the consequences of their actions for the situation occurring in the first place.

Re: The Labour party leadership thread : Thu Sep 10, 2015 7:27 pm  

Cronus wrote:

Tory success for decades. Not for the potty teenage reasons you claim but because the Labour Party has shown and continues to show itself incompetent and unelectable, and vast swathes of the population remember the irretrievable mess they've left us in, economically and demographically.

We're in a worse mess now, than we were in 2010.

Re: The Labour party leadership thread : Thu Sep 10, 2015 11:17 pm  

Cronus wrote:

Is anything in your weird and paranoid world NOT the result of years/decades of government conspiracy and black ops?

Odd little fellow. Getting more ridiculous every day.

Tory success for decades. Not for the potty teenage reasons you claim but because the Labour Party has shown and continues to show itself incompetent and unelectable, and vast swathes of the population remember the irretrievable mess they've left us in, economically and demographically.

Keep the faith, bro.

Re: The Labour party leadership thread : Fri Sep 11, 2015 2:23 am  

I have the feeling the SNP dominance of Scotland will last for a while, particularly if they can wangle "special Socttish" things from the UK government. I wouldn't be at all surprised if it all falls apart eventually, but isn't the real challenge for Labour to get itself elected in England and Wales?

Re: The Labour party leadership thread : Fri Sep 11, 2015 8:25 am  

Cronus wrote:

Is anything in your weird and paranoid world NOT the result of years/decades of government conspiracy and black ops?

Odd little fellow. Getting more ridiculous every day.

Tory success for decades. Not for the potty teenage reasons you claim but because the Labour Party has shown and continues to show itself incompetent and unelectable, and vast swathes of the population remember the irretrievable mess they've left us in, economically and demographically.

Can't really blame a global recession on Labour.

Good to see the Tories making the people who caused the recession pay for it though. The poorest and most vulnerable in our society, rightly paying for their actions in the global markets via austerity. That'll show em.