Re: General Election campaign : Mon Nov 04, 2019 8:32 am  

Sal Paradise wrote:

If Labour had voted for the deal it would have gone through - even you can't try and deflect that May's deal had all the protections they wanted and they still voted against it?

Not sure whose narrative you're repeating but the bipartisan deal was never brought to the floor of the house.

Re: General Election campaign : Mon Nov 04, 2019 10:14 am  

The Ghost of '99 wrote:

Not sure whose narrative you're repeating but the bipartisan deal was never brought to the floor of the house.

May's deal had protection of workers rights and environmental in line with EU standards

Re: General Election campaign : Wed Nov 06, 2019 11:23 am  

It's all going so well for the Tories; highlights this week include Michael Gove using a fake Twitter account to amplify false claims of AS against Momentum: the party machine doctoring a video of Keir Starmer to create fake news: the Tories supressing the publication of a report about Russian interference in the EU referendum; Boris Johnson & Gove being referred to the CPS over the criminality of Vote Leave; and best of all, Jacob Rees-Mogg saying on LBC that the people who died in the Grenfell fire did so because they lacked common sense - made worse by the demonic dwarf Andrew Bridgen doubling down on that, by saying that clever people like Jacob, who definitely wouldn't die in a fire because he'd make his own escape arrangements, are in charge precisely *because* of that death by incineration avoiding brand of cleverness.

Dom must be chuffed to bits.

Re: General Election campaign : Wed Nov 06, 2019 12:04 pm  

bren2k wrote:

It's all going so well for the Tories; highlights this week include Michael Gove using a fake Twitter account to amplify false claims of AS against Momentum: the party machine doctoring a video of Keir Starmer to create fake news: the Tories supressing the publication of a report about Russian interference in the EU referendum; Boris Johnson & Gove being referred to the CPS over the criminality of Vote Leave; and best of all, Jacob Rees-Mogg saying on LBC that the people who died in the Grenfell fire did so because they lacked common sense - made worse by the demonic dwarf Andrew Bridgen doubling down on that, by saying that clever people like Jacob, who definitely wouldn't die in a fire because he'd make his own escape arrangements, are in charge precisely *because* of that death by incineration avoiding brand of cleverness.

Dom must be chuffed to bits.

The scary thing is, he probably is, and so are his disciples. They either spend hours trying to debunk what everyone else has seen and heard with their own eyes and ears, or they use it to say the liberal/leftist media are ganging up on them, and they are in fact the victims in all of this. It's all going to plan.

Re: General Election campaign : Wed Nov 06, 2019 12:44 pm  

The Tories are getting all their skeletons out of the cupboard now and hoping to minimise the impact. To me they have hit the ground walking whilst Labour have hit the ground running. Labour have two big issues - financial credibility - whatever you say about austerity one thing you can't say is the Tories have been profligate with the monies and Corbyn.

Re: General Election campaign : Wed Nov 06, 2019 12:46 pm  

Sal Paradise wrote:

The Tories are getting all their skeletons out of the cupboard now and hoping to minimise the impact. To me they have hit the ground walking whilst Labour have hit the ground running. Labour have two big issues - financial credibility - whatever you say about austerity one thing you can't say is the Tories have been profligate with the monies and Corbyn.

You are Laura Kuenssberg, and I claim my 5 Euros.

Re: General Election campaign : Wed Nov 06, 2019 12:53 pm  

Sal Paradise wrote:

The Tories are getting all their skeletons out of the cupboard now and hoping to minimise the impact. To me they have hit the ground walking whilst Labour have hit the ground running. Labour have two big issues - financial credibility - whatever you say about austerity one thing you can't say is the Tories have been profligate with the monies and Corbyn.

They need to shut the cupboard door.
Although the modern world is, in general, far too intrusive in peoples lives, there isn't too much that can be kept secret these days and the cupboard will be over flowing with Tory scandals and ill timed comments.

Rees Mogg made a blooper and Cleverley actually made things worse when he tried to defend his colleague.
It would be hilarious but for the subject matter. What an absolute waste of political space and he (Rees Mogg) was running for PM just a short while ago

Re: General Election campaign : Wed Nov 06, 2019 12:57 pm  

As we've spoken, another one bites the dust; Alun Cairns, a Cabinet member, resigns over allegations that he was complicit in the deliberate sabotage of a rape trial.

The Tories - what a fine and upstanding bunch of basterds.

Re: General Election campaign : Wed Nov 06, 2019 12:57 pm  

wrencat1873 wrote:

They need to shut the cupboard door.
Although the modern world is, in general, far too intrusive in peoples lives, there isn't too much that can be kept secret these days and the cupboard will be over flowing with Tory scandals and ill timed comments.

Rees Mogg made a blooper and Cleverley actually made things worse when he tried to defend his colleague.
It would be hilarious but for the subject matter. What an absolute waste of political space and he (Rees Mogg) was running for PM just a short while ago

I agree - Cleverley looks out of depth and under prepared - to be out foxed by Piers Morgan who has pulled more of these stunts than anyone is the height of stupidity.

Labour have already made enough gaffs that the Tories should have had plenty of ammunition - even Morgan said today Labour's Brexit policy lacks any kind of credibility.

Less said about Mogg the better - doubt you will see him again in this campaign.

Re: General Election campaign : Wed Nov 06, 2019 12:58 pm  

bren2k wrote:

It's all going so well for the Tories; highlights this week include Michael Gove using a fake Twitter account to amplify false claims of AS against Momentum: the party machine doctoring a video of Keir Starmer to create fake news: the Tories supressing the publication of a report about Russian interference in the EU referendum; Boris Johnson & Gove being referred to the CPS over the criminality of Vote Leave; and best of all, Jacob Rees-Mogg saying on LBC that the people who died in the Grenfell fire did so because they lacked common sense - made worse by the demonic dwarf Andrew Bridgen doubling down on that, by saying that clever people like Jacob, who definitely wouldn't die in a fire because he'd make his own escape arrangements, are in charge precisely *because* of that death by incineration avoiding brand of cleverness.

Dom must be chuffed to bits.

You've missed Alun Cairns resignation as well !