Re: Terrorism in Paris again. : Sun Nov 29, 2015 10:52 pm  

Lebron James wrote:

1998 just called, it wants its memes back

Regards

King James

Pretentious? Moi?

Re: Terrorism in Paris again. : Sun Nov 29, 2015 10:53 pm  

FLAT STANLEY wrote:

First they came for the Jews and I did not speak out because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for the Communists and I did not speak out because I was not a Communist.

Then they came for the trade unionists and I did not speak out because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for me and there was no one left to speak out for me.

So you're the idealist type, huh? Well, without saying anything against you personally - talk is cheap. In any case - the above quote is erroneous. The first people the Nazis targeted were those who spoke out.

Re: Terrorism in Paris again. : Mon Nov 30, 2015 9:12 am  

Mugwump wrote:

So you're the idealist type, huh? Well, without saying anything against you personally - talk is cheap. In any case - the above quote is erroneous. The first people the Nazis targeted were those who spoke out.

My last post was literally from the back of my mind, i wasn't implying the NAZI's if i got the order wrong so be it i'll hold my hands up. When you quoted the muslims will have to fend for themselves it reminded me of a classic case of divide and conquer hence my reply.

Did the Third Reich not run on a fascistic, dictatorial system?

Hitler was a puppet of the Thule society, specifically Dietrich Eckhart claimed that Hitler had always been his tool.

Re: Terrorism in Paris again. : Mon Nov 30, 2015 4:06 pm  

Mugwump wrote:

Well, I do believe in aliens. There's nothing particularly special about the processes which led to the arrival of homo sapiens on planet earth.

Actually it's looking more special than it ever did. We are coming to the conclusion that the creation of "life" only happened once. All life existing now or that we can track through fossil records is basically the same biologically. There are common components that can be found in all forms of life - even virus. The conclusions that can be drawn from that are that either only one form of life survived or can survive on Earth or that only one life creating event actually happened in the entire history of the planet.

As for what scientist mean by Earth type planets, the criteria that is thought to be of critical importance is liquid water. Temperature, atmosphere, Gravity etc all become factors.

I think it's highly unlikely that life as we know it does not exist on other planets, but there is a chance we could be alone and the biggest fluke in the universe. If you think like that then the way we behave and the value we place in each other is a disgrace.

Re: Terrorism in Paris again. : Mon Nov 30, 2015 5:11 pm  

DHM wrote:

Actually it's looking more special than it ever did. We are coming to the conclusion that the creation of "life" only happened once. All life existing now or that we can track through fossil records is basically the same biologically. There are common components that can be found in all forms of life - even virus. The conclusions that can be drawn from that are that either only one form of life survived or can survive on Earth or that only one life creating event actually happened in the entire history of the planet.

Or we are the end result of the interactions between myriad life creating events. Or, or, or ...

As for what scientist mean by Earth type planets, the criteria that is thought to be of critical importance is liquid water. Temperature, atmosphere, Gravity etc all become factors.

I think the above is completely unscientific. We don't even know how life started on this planet and yet somehow it's possible to rule out it beginning in ALL the possible permutations of environments other than our own and those similar? No chance.

I mean, there's strong possibility we may find fundamentally different lifeforms on one or more of our near neighbours in the solar system. Granted, the chances of sentience are slim. But here again - we aren't even sure what "sentience" is - so it's a bit rich to make definitive claims about it.

I think it's highly unlikely that life as we know it does not exist on other planets, but there is a chance we could be alone and the biggest fluke in the universe. If you think like that then the way we behave and the value we place in each other is a disgrace.

Look on the bright side. Plenty of room for expansion.

Re: Terrorism in Paris again. : Tue Dec 01, 2015 12:37 am  

Doesn't it depend on whether the universe is infinite, making the possibility of being alone in the universe mathematically impossible?

Re: Terrorism in Paris again. : Tue Dec 01, 2015 1:16 am  

Charlie Sheen wrote:

Doesn't it depend on whether the universe is infinite, making the possibility of being alone in the universe mathematically impossible?

I suspect that not only is the universe weirder than we imagine - it's weirder than we CAN imagine.

Re: Terrorism in Paris again. : Tue Dec 01, 2015 3:14 am  

Mugwump wrote:

I suspect that not only is the universe weirder than we imagine - it's weirder than we CAN imagine.

Given that we don't know what the vast majority of it is even made of - this is true

Re: Terrorism in Paris again. : Tue Dec 01, 2015 4:56 pm  

Back to realism and on topic,

They've evacuated buildings at London Bridge station and now there's a suspicious vehicle in Portland Place near the BBC.

Just before a big debate/vote on bombing Syria.

What a load of bullshit.

Re: Terrorism in Paris again. : Tue Dec 01, 2015 9:33 pm  

FLAT STANLEY wrote:

Back to realism and on topic,

They've evacuated buildings at London Bridge station and now there's a suspicious vehicle in Portland Place near the BBC.

Just before a big debate/vote on bombing Syria.

What a load of bullshit.

So come on Flat Stanley, you broke the news here, give us an update. Did the suspicious vehicle have an alleged Bomb in? Are all those buildings still evacuated to raise awareness of these fake terrorists you keep telling us about? I'm waiting with interest for the next instalment! Surely, this plan must have greatly disturbed the debate/vote to swing opinion on the bombing of Syria!?