Re: Brexit Anyone? (2) : Fri Apr 07, 2017 7:25 am  

Had the referendum result been the other way around I'm sure the leave side would have sucked it up and not uttered a word of criticism, despite going on about it for 40 years previously.

It would have been business as usual not bitter resentment like we are seeing from the Lefties

Re: Brexit Anyone? (2) : Fri Apr 07, 2017 8:08 am  

wire-quin wrote:

It would have been business as usual not bitter resentment like we are seeing from the Lefties

Yup, but as I said, it's started, so let's get on with it.

Re: Brexit Anyone? (2) : Fri Apr 07, 2017 10:22 am  

wire-quin wrote:

What's become clear on here over the last couple of days is that the remainers don't have the answers now they've been put on the spot. They've criticised repeatedly the decision of the country and jumped on the back of scaremongering, but have offered nothing of note that will demonstrably impact negatively on the UK. They are just the noisy minority, typically left wing poor losers throwing out cheesy modern terms such as 'social cohesion' & 'ideology'. What the hell are they?

OK, so some companies will set up satellite offices in the EU but business is evolutionary and very fluid. The days of a mine in the local village or a ship being built in the local docks are long gone. Its a big every moving fluid world we live in.

Do you mean the "remainers " dont have the answers ??
We are waiting to be led to Utopia by the "leave" brigade, you know, the ones with their fingers crossed.

You are absolutely right about business being fluid and companies wanting access to the EU market are less likely to site their business in the UK , if this is the market that they wish to supply.
This in not scaremongering, just plain common sense.

Obviously the same could apply in reverse and those wanting to supply goods for the UK market may come over here but the UK is somewhat smaller than the EU, although, some of the oldies still think that we rule the world.

[Bullseye]

Re: Brexit Anyone? (2) : Fri Apr 07, 2017 10:39 am  

wire-quin wrote:

It would have been business as usual not bitter resentment like we are seeing from the Lefties

You're funny.

Re: Brexit Anyone? (2) : Fri Apr 07, 2017 11:35 am  

Bullseye wrote:

You're funny.

Indeed, Farage was already lining up his speech to call for a re run and then he realised he'd actually won.
He'd already said that it wouldn't be the last one and then suddenly it's the one and only.
The people have spoken.

Pressure has to be kept up on the clowns running the country.
Even without a totally free reign, they are taking food from peoples mouths. and form the disabled.

The heaviest cuts to social services since the war.

The Tories love their austerity cuts.

Re: Brexit Anyone? (2) : Fri Apr 07, 2017 12:45 pm  

wire-quin wrote:

It would have been business as usual not bitter resentment like we are seeing from the Lefties

You mean like Nigel "unfinished business" Farage said?

Try again

Re: Brexit Anyone? (2) : Fri Apr 07, 2017 2:05 pm  

wrencat1873 wrote:

Indeed, Farage was already lining up his speech to call for a re run and then he realised he'd actually won.
He'd already said that it wouldn't be the last one and then suddenly it's the one and only.
The people have spoken.

Pressure has to be kept up on the clowns running the country.
Even without a totally free reign, they are taking food from peoples mouths. and form the disabled.

The heaviest cuts to social services since the war.

The Tories love their austerity cuts.

What do you think Labour would have done - either tax and spend or borrow and spend and compound an already grim position - I wonder where the Tories inherited that position from?

So Jeremy wants to add VAT to school fees why not VAT on union subscriptions too? Both are discretionary spend from taxed income - maybe McCluskey's final salary scheme pension might then be under pressure and we can't have that now can we?

Re: Brexit Anyone? (2) : Fri Apr 07, 2017 2:48 pm  

Sal Paradise wrote:

What do you think Labour would have done - either tax and spend or borrow and spend and compound an already grim position - I wonder where the Tories inherited that position from?

So Jeremy wants to add VAT to school fees why not VAT on union subscriptions too? Both are discretionary spend from taxed income - maybe McCluskey's final salary scheme pension might then be under pressure and we can't have that now can we?

It's largely irrelevant what Labour may have done as they are not in power (and are unlikely to be in charge for many, many years).
The very fact that Mrs May spouts on about a fair society and looking after the less well off and then slashes benefits for those who, for whatever reason, can not work is just utter hypocrisy.

Add to that, the "strong economy" that we keep being told about and then just to bring this back on topic, the cost of Brexit, which they are trying to accumulate some kind of war chest.

At the risk of being accused of negativity (again), we may have to find 10's of billions to exit the EU club and of course someone has to pay.

Should we tax the better off members of society or, take of the less well off, many of whom are struggling to get by already.

Fair society my @rse, the Tories are loving every minute of cutting the welfare state and Corbyn is fecking impotent and cannot and will not do anything about it.

And just for the bullies on here, this is happening now. It's not a maybe of could be, the welfare cuts are real and whilst some may be justified, I'm just happy to be one of the better off people who would be "happy" to pay more tax.

Re: Brexit Anyone? (2) : Fri Apr 07, 2017 3:06 pm  

Ah bullies now, another overused vogue word to add to racist amongst many other cheesy terms...... Maybe its just an alternative opinion.

Do you genuinely think intelligent people, albeit Tories 'are loving every minute of cutting the welfare state'? No Genuinely

Re: Brexit Anyone? (2) : Fri Apr 07, 2017 3:13 pm  

wire-quin wrote:

Ah bullies now, another overused vogue word to add to racist amongst many other cheesy terms...... Maybe its just an alternative opinion.

Do you genuinely think intelligent people, albeit Tories 'are loving every minute of cutting the welfare state'? No Genuinely

I was refering to your "friend" cronus, dont be so sensitive.
It seems like it's the remain side that are a bit uneasy about being questioned, why is that ?