Re: Jon Venables and the ugly vigilante mob : Fri Feb 15, 2013 9:25 am  

And let's all avoid the x-rated path.

Re: Jon Venables and the ugly vigilante mob : Fri Feb 15, 2013 9:32 am  

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2186431/Father-killed-hate-mob-wrongly-accused-James-Bulger-child-killer-Robert-Thompson.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2186431/Father-killed-hate-mob-wrongly-accused-James-Bulger-child-killer-Robert-Thompson.html

Re: Jon Venables and the ugly vigilante mob : Fri Feb 15, 2013 9:36 am  

Unbelievable. Exactly why they were given new identities.

Re: Jon Venables and the ugly vigilante mob : Fri Feb 15, 2013 10:08 am  

ryano wrote:

I'm not sure how he 'wronged you' but his God promised him 72 virgins so he probably couldn't care less about your prayer. If he is right he'll be up to his nuts in guts.

I have lost friends in Afghanistan.

Re: Jon Venables and the ugly vigilante mob : Fri Feb 15, 2013 10:12 am  

kirkstaller wrote:

I have lost friends in Afghanistan.

Fook me stupid!!!!

Re: Jon Venables and the ugly vigilante mob : Fri Feb 15, 2013 10:14 am  

WIZEB wrote:

Fook me stupid!!!!

He has friends ? I thought that his God would have meade them impervious to anything out there that could kill/harm them ? Obviously his God's not that bothered.

Re: Jon Venables and the ugly vigilante mob : Fri Feb 15, 2013 10:17 am  

Dead Man Walking wrote:

He has friends ? I thought that his God would have meade them impervious to anything out there that could kill/harm them ? Obviously his God's not that bothered.

Pass.

The incredulity buildeth withineth me.

Re: Jon Venables and the ugly vigilante mob : Fri Feb 15, 2013 10:22 am  

Ferocious Aardvark wrote: The problem is that the country is in such a state that however worthy you think it may be, it simply can't afford the millions spent on Venables and his mate, and I could make a list of a million better uses of money. I seriously doubt that there is a vigilante mob who would seek him out and kill him. I think there are plenty who would hound him and make his life miserable but when people who have done nothing wrong find lifesaving or extending treatment unavailable or rationed, the inappropriateness of priorities is apparent. In modern times, before the state started spending millions on fake IDs, there is no trend of baying mobs ripping apart released killers. Indeed, I find it quite reassuring as well as surprising that so many murderers who are released without anonymity never seem to come to any harm at all from their victims' families let alone bloodthirsty mobs so where is the justification? Mr Justice Bean "There is understandable and legitimate public interest in the fact that one of James Bulger's killers has now been convicted of child pornography offences. "But there is no legitimate public interest in knowing his appearance, his location in custody or the exact location at which he was arrested and to which he might return on the event of being released "If there is, it is of marginal significance when set against the compelling evidence of a clear and present danger to his physical safety and indeed his life if these facts are made public." He added: "It is a fundamental duty of the state to ensure that suspects, defendants and prisoners are protected from violence and not subjected to retribution or punishment except in accordance with the sentence of a court. "That principle applies just as much to unpopular defendants as to anyone else." Mr Justice Bean said "one would have thought" that threats against Venables would have diminished but that there was "clear evidence" that was not the case. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-me ... e-10820908

Ferocious Aardvark wrote: The problem is that the country is in such a state that however worthy you think it may be, it simply can't afford the millions spent on Venables and his mate, and I could make a list of a million better uses of money. I seriously doubt that there is a vigilante mob who would seek him out and kill him. I think there are plenty who would hound him and make his life miserable but when people who have done nothing wrong find lifesaving or extending treatment unavailable or rationed, the inappropriateness of priorities is apparent. In modern times, before the state started spending millions on fake IDs, there is no trend of baying mobs ripping apart released killers. Indeed, I find it quite reassuring as well as surprising that so many murderers who are released without anonymity never seem to come to any harm at all from their victims' families let alone bloodthirsty mobs so where is the justification? Mr Justice Bean "There is understandable and legitimate public interest in the fact that one of James Bulger's killers has now been convicted of child pornography offences. "But there is no legitimate public interest in knowing his appearance, his location in custody or the exact location at which he was arrested and to which he might return on the event of being released "If there is, it is of marginal significance when set against the compelling evidence of a clear and present danger to his physical safety and indeed his life if these facts are made public." He added: "It is a fundamental duty of the state to ensure that suspects, defendants and prisoners are protected from violence and not subjected to retribution or punishment except in accordance with the sentence of a court. "That principle applies just as much to unpopular defendants as to anyone else." Mr Justice Bean said "one would have thought" that threats against Venables would have diminished but that there was "clear evidence" that was not the case. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-me ... e-10820908

Re: Jon Venables and the ugly vigilante mob : Fri Feb 15, 2013 10:29 am  

Rooster Booster wrote:

Now here's a good chance to self-reflect on our own behaviour.

People want to forgive a child that killed another child. An incredibly difficult ability is to TRULY forgive someone. So well done to those who really believe they are capable of it.

However. What if the grown up kid is now a racist and say a member of something like the BNP? Is it OK for his address and photo to be published by people who are after some form of vigilanteism. Is it OK to attack someone because of their (distorted) belief, but not for a child killer? Also consider that the Right winger's anger and belief could too come from an upbringing of terror, fear, violence and anxiety? All of which we now know more and more thanks to neuroscience causes arrested development in young people.

That's quite thought-provoking.
In fact, I need to think about that.

[Durham Giant]

Re: Jon Venables and the ugly vigilante mob : Fri Feb 15, 2013 11:02 am  

Mintball wrote:

Can be a very interesting and informative form of social media. But, like any other, it also allows for the simplistic idiot brigade.

Like the sin bin but limited to 140 characters !!