Given another stated aim of this bunch of miscreants is: "to make work pay". It seems a bloody strange way of going about it by proposing to reduce wages

It's the passivity of all of us that should know better that is fooking killing me!
Where have all the soldiers gone?

By the coalition you mean?

To you and me 'making work pay' means you get a decent living wage over and above what you get in benefits (without them being slashed first), to this bunch of scumbags it means slashing benefits first, then reducing the NMW, still making work pay over benefits.

Maybe at the next GE enough of the idiots on low pay who voted Tory will not do the same again (such as my mother in law who has always maintained that ruling should be left to those who know how to rule, such as royalty, aristocracy and the Tories while scraping an existence on a low paid menial job followed by basic pension for the last 10 years

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Without trying to pick a fight with those on here who think that laws should never be broken, no matter what, what we need is some good old fashioned civil disobedience, or better still a f'cking revolution with a brick wall and guns at the end of it.

Ah yes, that old saw about how the minimum wage is bad for the economy, but £38m Barclays bonuses is good for it.

We could start our own rebellion up if you fancy it?
The Hedon Popular Front?

We might have to spend a few afternoons in Shakespeare planning our strategy first though!

I'm up for it too.

First action will be to liberate those oppressed Jammie Dodgers from their capitalist owners and distribute amongst the HPF members.

Already jotted down in the HPF manifesto.
We may also have to usurp the current red and white landlord with one of a black and white persuasion?
Ex- GB Captain or not!

DMW will be invited to our nexy rally.
Party organiser.

Very easily - falling margins due to increases in material and other costs - increasing labour costs simply compounds an already desperate position. You give a pay award and you become less competitive this will cost jobs in the long run. Contorary to what the likes of Mr Fish think - most companies are trying to employ the maximum number of people for the maximum amount of time. The company I work for has no given a pay award for 4 years, that is pretty much the norm in this industry.

I solution I would prefer would be no annual award but a bonus based on performance across the whole work force. The idea that everyone should get a 4% increase because inflation is at that level is outdated old style leftie thinking. and is unsustainable in today's economic climate.

unfortunately i do understand what the swedish model is. your bleating, "oh, why don't you compare us with countries like sweden etc" shows you hadn't the first clue how they do things. then the reverse gear kicks in when someone points out that they sell anything off that isn't nailed down. so now you don't want us to compare ourselves with sweden? nice u-turn. you're a true tory.

my tax has reduced. why do you insist on making things up?



waah, waah, waah. grow up. 25 million people voted for the 3 main parties in 2010. all on a "cuts" ticket. and no doubt some of those are bleating about how unfair everything is. they had their chance at the polls, but they couldn't be d to think for themselves. gutless sheep.