Re: Fracking revisited : Tue Jan 14, 2014 6:56 pm  

JerryChicken wrote:

Fracking will be good for the businesses who are licensed to carry it out, it will be good for any current politicians who may already, or will in future have links to those corporations who are granted licences, it may prove to be good for local councils who are being offered sweeteners in dividends to grant permissions.

It remains to be seen whether or not individual family's in the UK will benefit from lower fuels costs as the energy providers in the UK will not have direct access to the gas produced but will have to still buy it on the open market and then may or may not pass on those savings or part of those savings to their customers.

We should give it a go and find out then shouldn't we!

Re: Fracking revisited : Tue Jan 14, 2014 7:01 pm  

Ajw71 wrote:

We should give it a go and find out then shouldn't we!

If we had nothing to lose and everything to gain then yes.

As it happens there are some problems in the USA with fracking and there are no benefits at the moment other than vague politician-speak of cheapness that is never quantified.

When politicians promise things in future then look for the loopholes in their speech and expect them to be lying from the outset - when they don't promise ANYTHING but throw vague hints in the air to see which one flies then you know that they are not committing themselves to anything.

Re: Fracking revisited : Tue Jan 14, 2014 7:02 pm  

Ajw71 wrote:

Fracking will be good for the country. Ironically the people who complain most about prices of fuel seem to be the one shouting loudest when it comes to opposing a real opportunity to reduce fuel costs.

There have been links posted here, on this thread, that illustrate the possible problems. Well done on showing that either you don't bother to read things that challenge your opinion or you don't care.

And to think that there are probably people out there who doesn't think you're just an unimaginative troll.

Re: Fracking revisited : Tue Jan 14, 2014 7:08 pm  

Mintball wrote:

There have been links posted here, on this thread, that illustrate the possible problems. Well done on showing that either you don't bother to read things that challenge your opinion or you don't care.

And to think that there are probably people out there who doesn't think you're just an unimaginative troll.

You are really quite intolerant of other people's opinions aren't you?

Re: Fracking revisited : Tue Jan 14, 2014 7:23 pm  

JerryChicken wrote:

If we had nothing to lose and everything to gain then yes.

Not sure when this would ever be the case? I imagine their were scientific risks when coal mining begun.

JerryChicken wrote:

As it happens there are some problems in the USA with fracking and there are no benefits at the moment other than vague politician-speak of cheapness that is never quantified.

Well that is obviously a matter of opinion. One article I have just seen suggests that it is propping up the whole economy. Another suggested benefits are hard to define.

Re: Fracking revisited : Tue Jan 14, 2014 7:39 pm  

Ajw71 wrote:

Mostly scaremongering I'm afraid.

Nonsense.

Re: Fracking revisited : Tue Jan 14, 2014 7:43 pm  

Ajw71 wrote:

Not sure when this would ever be the case? I imagine their were scientific risks when coal mining begun.

Well that is obviously a matter of opinion. One article I have just seen suggests that it is propping up the whole economy. Another suggested benefits are hard to define.

Post the article then.

What you can't seem to grasp is that they are real environmental and safety concerns, unless these are fully ruled out them it can't go ahead.

Re: Fracking revisited : Tue Jan 14, 2014 8:19 pm  

Sheldon wrote:

Post the article then.

What you can't seem to grasp is that they are real environmental and safety concerns, unless these are fully ruled out them it can't go ahead.

I appreciate their are concerns but in my opinion the 'real environmental and safety concerns' have been grossly exaggerated.

It is nearly impossible to be able to do as you say and 'fully rule out' every single concern. There are risks associated with every single activity in every walk of life. It is about minimising those risks and weighing the positives against the negatives. There were obvious risks when it came to coal mining. It still happened.

Re: Fracking revisited : Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:01 pm  

Ajw71 wrote:

I appreciate their are concerns but in my opinion the 'real environmental and safety concerns' have been grossly exaggerated.

It is nearly impossible to be able to do as you say and 'fully rule out' every single concern. There are risks associated with every single activity in every walk of life. It is about minimising those risks and weighing the positives against the negatives. There were obvious risks when it came to coal mining. It still happened.

You may as well say that there are risks in baking a cake so fracking should be ok - the process of fracking is as much akin to baking a cake than it is coal mining.

Re: Fracking revisited : Tue Jan 14, 2014 10:36 pm  

Ajw71 wrote:

Fracking will be good for the country. Ironically the people who complain most about prices of fuel seem to be the one shouting loudest when it comes to opposing a real opportunity to reduce fuel costs.

I hope theres a huge field of shale gas right under your house. And that it falls down as soon as they start drilling.