Re: General Election campaign : Sun Nov 10, 2019 11:30 am  

wrencat1873 wrote:

This is really interesting as NOBODY is actually saying that we will be better off if we leave. Yes, The European court MAY not be able to over rule our laws but, better off on the outside of the EU you are funny.

Everything that we now hear is thet leaving will be worth taking "a hit" and with the economic gloom gathering over the planet, we are volunteering another recession - interesting take on better off

And the craziest thin of all are the spending pledges on both sides, which in a time of probable recession will only make matters worse.

So why don't Labour simple campaign as a remain party and stop the idea that they are anything else?

The idea that EU membership somehow protects you from a recession is not true and has been proved numerous times to be a false perception.

Labour's spending plans are not credible - £1.2tn maybe a bit over the top but they will not be far off

Re: General Election campaign : Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:37 pm  

It's clear to see that the Conservatives have gone with the old "you think we're bad? Look at what those guys are doing!" approach to their campaign.

Re: General Election campaign : Sun Nov 10, 2019 1:13 pm  

King Street Cat wrote:

It's clear to see that the Conservatives have gone with the old "you think we're bad? Look at what those guys are doing!" approach to their campaign.

you mean, ACCURATE?

Labour nearly killed the country, they will not get another chance. Thankfully.

Re: General Election campaign : Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:34 pm  

Sal Paradise wrote:

So why don't Labour simple campaign as a remain party and stop the idea that they are anything else?

Probably partly because the leader isn't pro-EU and partly because the party does fear losing leave voters like the Tories have lost remain voters.

Sal Paradise wrote:

The idea that EU membership somehow protects you from a recession is not true and has been proved numerous times to be a false perception.

Nobody has said this apart from you in an effort to create a straw man.
Being affected by a global downturn is in any event totally different to deciding to undermine your key trading arrangements thus precipitating a recession.

Sal Paradise wrote:

Labour's spending plans are not credible - £1.2tn maybe a bit over the top but they will not be far off

What are your thoughts on the Tory spending plans. How much do they come to, can you give us a figure as they've been throwing huge amounts around recently in an effort to win over voters?

Re: General Election campaign : Sun Nov 10, 2019 4:16 pm  

Sal Paradise wrote: Labour's spending plans are not credible - £1.2tn maybe a bit over the top but they will not be far off General Election: Claims on Labour spending should be viewed with caution The costings splashed across Sunday's newspapers are not from Labour's manifesto because it has yet to be published. https://news.sky.com/story/general-elec ... n-11858645

Sal Paradise wrote: Labour's spending plans are not credible - £1.2tn maybe a bit over the top but they will not be far off General Election: Claims on Labour spending should be viewed with caution The costings splashed across Sunday's newspapers are not from Labour's manifesto because it has yet to be published. https://news.sky.com/story/general-elec ... n-11858645

Re: General Election campaign : Sun Nov 10, 2019 5:26 pm  

Entertaining. https://twitter.com/RidgeOnSunday/statu ... 8193641472

Entertaining. https://twitter.com/RidgeOnSunday/statu ... 8193641472

[Mild Rover]

Re: General Election campaign : Sun Nov 10, 2019 9:14 pm  

Anybody fancy a prediction/guess at the result a month out from the poll?

I’m going to say Conservative majority of 35.

Re: General Election campaign : Mon Nov 11, 2019 7:03 am  

Mild Rover wrote:

Anybody fancy a prediction/guess at the result a month out from the poll?

I’m going to say Conservative majority of 35.

Hung parliament. Conservatives making up a government with whoever is desperate enough to play their stupid games. And the circus will roll on, and on, and on.

Re: General Election campaign : Mon Nov 11, 2019 8:15 am  

IR80 wrote:

you mean, ACCURATE?

Labour nearly killed the country, they will not get another chance. Thankfully.

Just for balance, where is the ecconomy now, compared to when the Tories took office ?
Slashing and burning public services to provide tax cut's for those who are already well off is just morally corrupt.

I'm sure that you will remember Mrs May trying to justify huge cuts in front line policing and that we didn't require as many policemen, and yet now, they are embarking on the largest recruitment drive in history and for Boris to achieve these numbers, especially taking account of natural wastage, there would need to be 500,000 applicants - yeah, we're in great shape

Re: General Election campaign : Mon Nov 11, 2019 2:44 pm  

The Ghost of '99 wrote:

Probably partly because the leader isn't pro-EU and partly because the party does fear losing leave voters like the Tories have lost remain voters.

Nobody has said this apart from you in an effort to create a straw man.
Being affected by a global downturn is in any event totally different to deciding to undermine your key trading arrangements thus precipitating a recession.

What are your thoughts on the Tory spending plans. How much do they come to, can you give us a figure as they've been throwing huge amounts around recently in an effort to win over voters?

There is no guarantee we will not be in recession if we stay in the EU - like it or not we voted to leave so what do the politicians do - just ignore the vote?

The Tories spending seems reasonable - they have to do something, continued austerity is not a vote winner but their numbers are at least believable - £250bn on a green initiative is quite simply lunacy.