Re: Scottish Referendum : Tue Sep 16, 2014 5:09 pm  

If there is a YES vote Cameron will be ousted as P.M mark my words.

Re: Scottish Referendum : Tue Sep 16, 2014 5:10 pm  

Greg Palast rips into Salmond and the fake independence he offers. http://www.gregpalast.com/scotland-shou ... x-salmond/

Greg Palast rips into Salmond and the fake independence he offers. http://www.gregpalast.com/scotland-shou ... x-salmond/

Re: Scottish Referendum : Tue Sep 16, 2014 5:14 pm  

Standee wrote:

because the SNP are, in reality, a single policy party, they may as well have branded themselves "The Independence" party, they don't really have anyone capable of running a country long term.

They have won the last 2 elections in Scotland. They didn't do that on the back of a single policy.

Re: Scottish Referendum : Tue Sep 16, 2014 5:15 pm  

LeighGionaire wrote:

If there is a YES vote Cameron will be ousted as P.M mark my words.

by his party, or the electorate?

Re: Scottish Referendum : Tue Sep 16, 2014 5:35 pm  

Ed Miliband making promises, but when he doesn't win next May, those promises are worth what?????

Re: Scottish Referendum : Tue Sep 16, 2014 5:56 pm  

LeagueDweeb wrote:

Ed Miliband making promises, but when he doesn't win next May, those promises are worth what?????

About the same as Cameron or Clegg's

Re: Scottish Referendum : Tue Sep 16, 2014 5:58 pm  

Standee wrote:

by his party, or the electorate?

By his party certainly, they're not called the Conservative and Unionist Party for nowt

Cameron's legacy will be "The PM who tore apart the Union"

Re: Scottish Referendum : Tue Sep 16, 2014 6:04 pm  

Standee wrote:

do we think we'll get a result on Friday, I think it will be close and a recount required.

Recounts are only allowed in certain circumstances, the closeness of the ballot isn't one of them

Re: Scottish Referendum : Tue Sep 16, 2014 6:29 pm  

Taking aside the general "chippiness" of many Scots and an in-built antipathy towards the English, what this campaign has shown is that many, many Scots simply do not connect with a London-centric political elite.

I do hope that this will extend beyond the Scottish border and way past the referendum. A major factor in the lack of engagement in politics in the mainland UK, is the belief that, apart from a few tweaks, politicians are pretty much cut from the same cloth and are in it for what they can get out. Modern politicians aren't interesting in serving anyone but themselves and their backers.

If Thursday's decision is NO, then more powers will be devolved to Scotland. Wales & Northern Ireland will expect more and I would hope for a groundswell of support for Regional Assemblies in England too. If London can do it, why can't Yorkshire, Lancashire (as was) or the West Midlands? There could be an assembly for the East Midlands, the South East, The Umbrias (North and Cum) and the West Country. Cornwall and East Anglia are already like foreign countries anyway, so just leave them to their own devices.

Re: Scottish Referendum : Tue Sep 16, 2014 6:32 pm  

I actually found myself agreeing with George Galloway on the radio today, when he was questioning the intimidatory campaigning of the Yes side.

The tactic of Salmond labelling the Yes campaign 'Team Scotland' is one laced with the type of division that could well lead to trouble on the streets of Scotland come the weekend - It is a label that suggests anybody voting No is not Scottish, or, at least, is not voting in the interests of Scotland.

Its also a tactic which makes me more convinced that the No's are actually further ahead than the polls suggest - I would reckon there are a decent number of folk who are scared to reveal their intention come Thursday for fear of reprisal.... Its a sad indictment of how sordid some of this campaigning truly is.