Re: General Election campaign : Tue Nov 12, 2019 6:29 pm  

IR80 wrote:

yay, codswallop with joaundiced links.

The Sin Bin is heading for a Michelin Star (for codswallop)

No links on this post, bud.
You seem to be mistaken, again

Re: General Election campaign : Tue Nov 12, 2019 9:17 pm  

Sir Kevin Sinfield wrote: Which bit isn’t true? All evidenced below Trump praises Boris Johnson as ‘right man for the time’ and calls for pact with Farage https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.expr ... brexit/amp Lowering food safety regulations to US standards would mean allowing sale of products containing rodent hair, animal faeces and maggots https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.inde ... html%3famp Private firms given £9.2bn of NHS budget despite Hancock promise https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theg ... ck-promise US wants access to NHS in post-Brexit deal, says Trump ally https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theg ... to-uk-says Grow up There is no way any leader of the free world would endorse Corbyn - Trump or otherwise Outsourcing of NHS to private is 7% it was 6% under Labour - fake news Lowering food standards - doesn't mean we have to buy their food - it will not be compulsory you know. We want access to the EU without paying anything for it doesn't mean we are going to get it - same goes for the US - the trade deals the US did with Canada and Australia both excluded their health sectors - all US drug firms have access to the NHS now. All this talk was a study done by 3 academics which calculated if the spending/person on drugs matched the US then spending would rise by £500m/week - there is no where in the world where spending on drugs is as high as the states - so why would it automatically happen here - again fake news

Sir Kevin Sinfield wrote: Which bit isn’t true? All evidenced below Trump praises Boris Johnson as ‘right man for the time’ and calls for pact with Farage https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.expr ... brexit/amp Lowering food safety regulations to US standards would mean allowing sale of products containing rodent hair, animal faeces and maggots https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.inde ... html%3famp Private firms given £9.2bn of NHS budget despite Hancock promise https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theg ... ck-promise US wants access to NHS in post-Brexit deal, says Trump ally https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theg ... to-uk-says Grow up There is no way any leader of the free world would endorse Corbyn - Trump or otherwise Outsourcing of NHS to private is 7% it was 6% under Labour - fake news Lowering food standards - doesn't mean we have to buy their food - it will not be compulsory you know. We want access to the EU without paying anything for it doesn't mean we are going to get it - same goes for the US - the trade deals the US did with Canada and Australia both excluded their health sectors - all US drug firms have access to the NHS now. All this talk was a study done by 3 academics which calculated if the spending/person on drugs matched the US then spending would rise by £500m/week - there is no where in the world where spending on drugs is as high as the states - so why would it automatically happen here - again fake news

Re: General Election campaign : Wed Nov 13, 2019 8:44 am  

Well, having had "Chicken Johnson" a few weeks ago, it seems that this too is contagious.

Despite priding themselves on being the party best able to control the public purse strings, it seems like Johnsons right hand man, Sajid Javed, is now unwilling to go head to head with John McDonnel to debate each of the main party's spending plans.

Having created a fake headline of "Labours £1.2 trillion spending spree", which has now been proven to be a totally made up figure and with Tories allowing their own spending plan to be "costed" through the same mechanism. Javid has bottled the planned live debate.

To quote Led Zeppelin "lying, cheating, hurting, that's all you seem to do".

I dont like Corbyn but, when it comes to honesty, he's a very long way in front of this shower.

The Tories cant tell you what their spending will cost but, they are happy to completely fabricate figures for their opponents and then try and tell people that these numbers are correct.
Maybe our current chancellor cant add up, which you would have thought was a pre requisite for the job that he's been given.

Re: General Election campaign : Wed Nov 13, 2019 8:54 am  

wrencat1873 wrote:

Well, having had "Chicken Johnson" a few weeks ago, it seems that this too is contagious.

Despite priding themselves on being the party best able to control the public purse strings, it seems like Johnsons right hand man, Sajid Javed, is now unwilling to go head to head with John McDonnel to debate each of the main party's spending plans.

Having created a fake headline of "Labours £1.2 trillion spending spree", which has now been proven to be a totally made up figure and with Tories allowing their own spending plan to be "costed" through the same mechanism. Javid has bottled the planned live debate.

To quote Led Zeppelin "lying, cheating, hurting, that's all you seem to do".

I dont like Corbyn but, when it comes to honesty, he's a very long way in front of this shower.

The Tories cant tell you what their spending will cost but, they are happy to completely fabricate figures for their opponents and then try and tell people that these numbers are correct.
Maybe our current chancellor cant add up, which you would have thought was a pre requisite for the job that he's been given.

Horatio Javid?
He needs to be back defending our shores against them trillions of economic migrants fleeing over here to take our jobs, occupy our social housing, exploit our NHS and benefits system, and eating all our carp.

Re: General Election campaign : Wed Nov 13, 2019 8:58 am  

WIZEB wrote:

Horatio Javid?
He needs to be back defending our shores against them trillions of economic migrants fleeing over here to take our jobs, occupy our social housing, exploit our NHS and benefits system, and eat all our carp.

I do worry about his grasp of basic Mathematics.

Having shipped out the long serving moderate Tories, we are now left with a bunch of incompetent compulsive liars, very much in the mould of their leader.
It's up to the rest of us to call them out.
If this wasn't such an important election, which will be pivotal in our kids futures, it would be quite amusing but, this is serious.

Re: General Election campaign : Wed Nov 13, 2019 9:11 am  

It's quite interesting that during this period of purdah, mainstream media types are finally calling out Tory lies - because they are legally obliged to provide balance; on that basis, the tone of many news programmes has changed, and the fundamental dishonesty of the Tory offer is actually being exposed. If they behaved like this *all* the time, to *all* politicians, the tone of our political discourse would change very quickly.

Re: General Election campaign : Wed Nov 13, 2019 9:23 am  

bren2k wrote:

It's quite interesting that during this period of purdah, mainstream media types are finally calling out Tory lies - because they are legally obliged to provide balance; on that basis, the tone of many news programmes has changed, and the fundamental dishonesty of the Tory offer is actually being exposed. If they behaved like this *all* the time, to *all* politicians, the tone of our political discourse would change very quickly.

One thing that does puzzle me is, that despite this being a Westminster Election and that the Brexit Party has no MP's, Farage seems to get a hell of a lot of publicity. You could be forgiven for thinking that someone at BBC HQ has some kind of personal agenda ?

Re: General Election campaign : Wed Nov 13, 2019 9:37 am  

wrencat1873 wrote:

No links on this post, bud.
You seem to be mistaken, again

why do I need to link, you only link to left wing opinion pieces found by a lazy google search.

Re: General Election campaign : Wed Nov 13, 2019 9:42 am  

IR80 wrote:

why do I need to link, ypu only link to left wing opinion pieces fpund by a lazy google search.

Just to jog your memory, where you replied to my post that didn't show any links, you replied:

yay, codswallop with joaundiced links.

The Sin Bin is heading for a Michelin Star (for codswallop)

Your typical, lazy replies, without adding anything to the subject being discussed is a little tiresome.
You seem to have my politics confused a little but, no worries.

You keep sending them and I'll keep knocking them back

Re: General Election campaign : Wed Nov 13, 2019 10:08 am  

wrencat1873 wrote:

Just to jog your memory, where you replied to my post that didn't show any links, you replied:

yay, codswallop with joaundiced links.

The Sin Bin is heading for a Michelin Star (for codswallop)

Your typical, lazy replies, without adding anything to the subject being discussed is a little tiresome.
You seem to have my politics confused a little but, no worries.

You keep sending them and I'll keep knocking them back

knock back all you want, you seem to have way more time free than those gainfully employed.