Re: No More Arguments: Austerity is Working! : Sun Dec 22, 2013 1:13 pm  

Sal Paradise wrote:

Whoa - I ask again for you to read what is written not what you want it to say. I have never said that because I haven't had a pay rise that nobody else should get one. If I have please show me where - otherwise show some class and retract the statement i.e. admit you where wrong...

Yes. You have. You were at the front of the queue here during the pensions dispute complaining about how overpaid public services – who you informed us didn't work in "The Real World" should be dragged down to the level of people like you, in "The Real World".

Re: No More Arguments: Austerity is Working! : Sun Dec 22, 2013 1:14 pm  

BobbyD wrote:

Not necessarily, if he/she has altered his/her outgoings ...

You reduce your outgoings – if/when your income declines.

Re: No More Arguments: Austerity is Working! : Sun Dec 22, 2013 1:15 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

One question I have about foodbanks is do they ask for any evidence that the person coming for food is unemployed or otherwise strapped for cash to the point of not being able to afford food at a supermarket? I ask only because I wondered whether it was possible for a well off person or indeed a person actually able to afford to pay for food to walk in and just get some food without cost.

Did Jesus do that before helping people?

Re: No More Arguments: Austerity is Working! : Sun Dec 22, 2013 2:04 pm  

Reading the right wing posts on here and other forums I am beginning to realise what is wrong.

It should be a criminal offence to be poor, malnourished, ill, disabled and not be employable,
It should be a criminal offence to care about human beings who need help and try to change things that could improve the situation.
If you have no humanity and are of the opinion that me me me is the only social process available then you should be lauded.
As a right wing apologist you should realise that those who have the most are so GREEDY that anyone who even thinks about having a care for others should be immediately incarcerated without trial.
As right wing apologists, pre enlightened Scrooge is the person you should aspire to as this is how you believe the system should be.
The word Nasty is pornographic and should be deleted.

There are however people still with social conscience who will risk right wing claptrap and continue to help those in need or who have fallen on hard times. Thank you for your efforts.

I hope everyone has as good a time as possible during the next few days, including those who stick their fingers in their ears, wear blinkers and sing la la la and hope someone will take away the worlds problems for them.
There is still hope for you yet, optimist that I am

Re: No More Arguments: Austerity is Working! : Sun Dec 22, 2013 5:19 pm  

Mintball wrote:

:lol:

You reduce your outgoings – if/when your income declines.

I already have done.

Re: No More Arguments: Austerity is Working! : Sun Dec 22, 2013 5:32 pm  

BobbyD wrote:

I already have done.

Your attempt to pretend that reducing one's outgoings doesn't mean that one is worse off if one's pay is frozen or reduced is still risable, though.

Re: No More Arguments: Austerity is Working! : Sun Dec 22, 2013 5:48 pm  

Mintball wrote:

Your attempt to pretend that reducing one's outgoings doesn't mean that one is worse off if one's pay is frozen or reduced is still risable, though.

Surely you mean "risible"?
We'll have to agree to disagree.

Re: No More Arguments: Austerity is Working! : Sun Dec 22, 2013 5:53 pm  

Mintball wrote:

Yes. You have. You were at the front of the queue here during the pensions dispute complaining about how overpaid public services – who you informed us didn't work in "The Real World" should be dragged down to the level of people like you, in "The Real World".

No i did not I have never said that because I haven't had a pay rise nobody else should get one - which is what you claimed.

So either prove it by finding a quote I have made that says what you claim or retract. We both know what is going to happen - neither because you cannot prove it, you would have if could have and you haven't got enough about you to admit when you are wrong.

What I did say was that many in the private sector will have little sympathy with civil servants striking for compulsory pay increases when many in the private sector - like me - haven't had a pay increase in a number of years. That isn't anything like what claim I said. Again please read what is written not what you want it to say.

Re: No More Arguments: Austerity is Working! : Sun Dec 22, 2013 6:26 pm  

BobbyD wrote:

Surely you mean "risible"?
We'll have to agree to disagree.

At best, it was nothing other than sophistry.

Try taking it to its logical conclusion: 'Oh, I'm not worse off because my boss slashed my pay by a huge: I cut my outgoings by giving up my house and now I sleep on a bench in the park, so I'm not actually worse off.'

Re: No More Arguments: Austerity is Working! : Sun Dec 22, 2013 6:27 pm  

Sal Paradise wrote:

... Again please read what is written not what you want it to say.

Is that why you replied to "Graeme" on another thread while replying to Jerry Chicken?